Foam & Glue

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See map: Google Maps Hi Everyone ... first post for me.

I finally got my foam, removed all my test track that was just laying on the bare plywood, cut the foam to fit, found enough stuff to weigh everything down while waiting for the Liquid Nails to dry, and was feeling pretty spiffy because everything was going so well.  Then I reached for the two tubes of Liquid Nails I'd purchased ... sigh ... and they weren't where I remembered putting them.  My next half hour was spent searching my basement.  The Liquid Nails have apparently been sucked into the blackhole that IS my basement until such time that I have no use whatever for them or a place to store them.  Things like this happen in my basement all the time.  Anyway ... I have plenty of good old white glue, nearly a gallon.    And my question is simply this ... Is there any reason why I couldn't, or shouldn't glue down my foam with the white glue?  Some pitfall that will jump up and bite me in the posterior sometime in the future?  I ask because I have absolutely no experience working with foam, none at all, and I've noticed, while lurking on this forum these last few months, that Liquid Nails seemed to be the preferred adhesive.  My thanks to any and all who would share of their knowledge and experience.  John



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White Glue

I tried gluing 2 pieces of foam together with white glue. Even after a couple of days it had not hardened. Not sure if it was because the glue would not penetrate the foam or because there was no air circulation. Same bottle of glue works fine on a wood to wood application. I susspect that it would work on a wood to foam application. Try a test piece.

Now, when I build up some scenery with foam, I use low temp hot melt glue. Quick, clean, and no half open tubes of Liquid Nails left over.

By the way, welcome to the site.


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Welcome, John

Using adhesive caulk works well to bond foam to any surface as well as itself.

 

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JohnA
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Thanks
I did indeed, yesterday, slather a couple hunks of scrap foam with white glue.  This morning, when I checked them they did come apart quite easily and sure enough the glue had not dried.  It seems a trip to the craft store is in order for some of that low temp glue.  Thanks for the heads up it would have been a real mess.  While I'm out and about I figure to grabs some of that calk too.


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I use tite bond wood glue

I use tite bond wood glue to glue my stryo to the plywood, and to bond the pices of stryo together. I dillute the glue about 75% glue 25% water. That way it is easier to slop the stuff on, it dose take about 24 hours to dry but I have never had anything come apart, besides it cheep, and in the model railroading game cheep is always good. That way it gives you more money for locos and rolling stock.

Just my two cents

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Latex Contact Cement

I used LATEX contact cement to bond my foam sheets to each other and to the plywood,  holds really really well. 

Be sure it is LATEX water clean up contact cement,  regular contact cement will disolve your foam into a puddle of goop  (my brother didn't think I meant it when I told him ONLY Latex and he not only desolved his foam, but it ended up ruining a carpet under it.).

I have tried several other types of glue subsequently to hold bits of foam,  liquid nails is great.  latex chaulking is good.  In a pinch I have used yellow carpenters glue (variation on white glue), it is just OK and only if you leave it a week or so and it is exposed to air,  it is not good laminating foam sheets to each other or to plywood. 

Hot melt is good for a quick fix, but is a brittle bond.  tend to avoid that approach. 

Have used Gorilla Glue and other clear type glues,  they do react to the foam, but in small bits can old, eg, gluing a tree in place, but sometimes a bit of goop foams where it is applied,  avoid glues with solvents in them.

my two cents worth on this topic from my experience.




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Gorilla glue works the best
Gorilla glue works the best for me.  Great bond for foam to wood and foam to foam.  I built my firt foam mountain entirely with gorilla glue.
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I like using Weldbond for
I like using Weldbond for gluing foam down.  It dont take much for a good connection.  I have also been using spray glue lately, and have had good results with it.  Quick and pretty much dry when you put the two peices together.


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I often use two types of glue simultaneously

I usually tack the pieces of foam together using low-temp glue and rely on white glue or latex caulk for longer lasting hold. The hot glue will hold things steady until things dry.

 I sometimes pin pieces together or ram pieces of wire through multiple layers of foam to make sure everything stays aligned, too. 


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You could try polyurethane

You could try polyurethane wood glue. It is similar to polyurethane foam: it expands when it hardenes so it fills small cavities easily and it absorbs moisture. Just remember to wet your foam before applying it and secure the pieces well. I used it to bond wood to foam and it worked well except that the stuff is rather expensive and messy.




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Glues for foam

  I have used Gorilla glue with really good sucess. I have been using the styrofoam boards (little balls heated together to form a board). Gorilla glue foams a bit itself as it hardens. When they are glued, THEY ARE GLUED!!!

 

Jacko 




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