New track plan advice

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I have been looking at many different layouts for the past couple months before getting started on my first fixed table layout.  The space I am working with will be an L shaped 8 feet by 6 feet.  I want to be able to have 3 industries maybe 4 (logging and quarry for sure not sure of the others yet), a mountain will probablly be incorporated into one of the corners, and some sort of a water feature probablly a river.  I am going to be using DCC (digitrax) and code 55 flex track.  I have looked at hundreads of layouts and I have tried to put a couple down on paper but have had nothing really look like it will work well for me yet.  I want to have a long continuous run of track double track if possible so I can run two trains with the wife.  Any suggestions would be great.

 

thanks

James 




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James, Creating needs to

James,
 
Creating needs to be fun, and a bit loose to begin with, so after others get a look at my advise below, you may get some really good refinements, or at least I hope it will help you get past your current state.
 
One ruling factor may be the continuous loops you want, and the length of locomotives and rail-cars you want to use.  Shorter locomotives and rail-cars will tolerate tighter radius curves, which will be critical in determining the minimum width the ends of the legs of the L can be.  If you are going for the larger side, the minimum radius might be good at 13 inches or so, and allowing double track and about 1.25" center to center spacing, the outer radius would be 14.25".  Half the track and road bed extends beyond this, and you may want a bit more space beyond that.  So maybe this works out to the minimum width of the end of the L legs of 33".  If you use a plain double track loop at each end for maximum run, it ties that part down. 
 
You should avoid keeping the loop track perfectly doubled up everywhere.  Splitting the track (not the marriage) up for some of the run will give some visual interest.  Also avoid keeping the loops on the edge of the board.  And try to avoid a single level mainline (the loops).  Mountains do not exist on just a corner, so try to let the hills ramble a bit and give the track a good reason to have some grades and different levels.  Avoid grades over 2%, which will tend to restrict the total amount change of grade for the space you have, but make the best use of it.
 
Try to locate materials sources and destinations  (the industries etc.) apart based on geographical reason, but also to give you different locations on the layout to do things.  The logging also gives you the chance to have an interchange where the logging railroad brings logs out of the hills to the mill, and then down to the interchange with the main railroad.  Incorporate a couple of towns that exist partly on the layout but built as if they continue for some distance beyond the boarders of the board.  This will give you locations for industries that use raw materials from mining and logging etc.  As well as major locations for passenger service.  Include a couple whistle stops for tiny towns too.
 
Work on what siding and spurs you need for the industries, and some location for a small yard for the main railroad.
 
Wave the magic wand and ta-da, you have a lot of work to do, but it is a good and fun job.  Let us know how things are progressing.  You will get more help with the more specifics you can provide!
 
Happy railroading for you and your wife!
Charles




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http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f258/a393512/trainset.jpg 

I finished building my table for the new layout and the longer side of the table is 10 feet (the one with the outcropping past the L) and the other side is 8 feet.  I have put the plans on paper for what I would like to do but I was unable to put elevation on there yet I will have an update on that.  I tested the track for the curves and it looks like they will be fine but the positioning of the turnouts could be tricky to install.  I trasfered what I had into MSPAINT the best I could every black is track (atlas code 80 flex) the blue stuff is water. The P stands for Port, S for sawmill, B for some other large buisiness, L for the main logging area off the mountain which is going to be in the little 2 foot extention area on the top of the picture, the C is the coal processing building and the M is the mine entrance itself.  At the very top of the picture where the 2 foot extension is that track will be going through a mountain.  The logging area will bring the logs to the sawmill via the river by floating them (not sure how to model that just yet)  Sorry about the bad drawing I was using a touchpad on a laptop and then photobucket made a couple small parts of the lines dissapear.  But if anyone could give me some advice on what problems I know I will run into that would be great.  Also I am going to be using the pink extruded foam for terrain.

 

Thank you,

James 




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problem loading picture

It looks like the picture doesnt load everytime it works for me if I remove everything in the address bar of the error page past .jpg http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f258/a393512/trainset.jpg that is what the link is supposed to look like but when I like it from here it adds some stuff not sure why, oh well

James 




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Do the lines cross at grade?

  Are the lines to cross at grade, or will there be separation by elevating one over the other? You might want to be able to cross from one line to the other. It looks like there are lots of possibilities. Starting out with DCC on the layout will save you some headaches. I am using NCE myself, but I sure like the Digitrax decoders. My layout is underway also, have you determined what you want your minimum radius to be on your main.

Jacko 




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The tracks are going to

The tracks are going to cross at different elevations.  I am going to have 2 different places to switch lines i put them on the drawing but you can barely see them.  And I have not measured the radis yet but when I put it on the table I was happy with it as the cars were very far from touching.

 

-James 




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Looks like a good start
Looks like a good start James.  Keep us posted on the progress.  Since the yards will be level, it looks like if you start the grade just past the yard lead you probably won't have too bad a grade to get you high enough to cross the lower line.
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Jim




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Extra Help
For a little extra help, download this software from atlas. http://www.atlasrr.com/righttrack.htm This will better help draw and fit the track to space desired.


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