MT couplers hanging up on track

aroc
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Okay now is when I really show my ignorance.  My apologies for not knowing the correct terminology but I know someone will know what I am talking about and I'm sure correct me.

I still don't have an operational layout yet but about 75% of the track is down.  I have been running some rolling stock over some of it just to get a feel for the operation of it all when I noticed some of the MT couplers were hanging up on switches.  What I mean is the copper bar coming down from the coupler is too low and hits the rail crossing over the switch.  Sometimes it will cause the car to derail.  

Is the fix as simple as bending it upward? Is there some other way to move it upward so as not to be so low?  Do I have to move the entire coupler?

Thanks for your help and once again sorry for not knowing the correct terminology.

Eric

Deer Lodge, MT


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MT couplers getting hung up on track

You need to get both the coupler height gauge and the coupler pin height gauge. These will tell you two things: (1) the coupler height gauge will tell if the couplers are at the right height on your cars; and (2) The coupler pin height gauge will tell if the coupler pins (these are those metal curved things you spoke about) have enough clearance.

It the couplers are to low, the coupler pins will most certainly catch on your track work. So check that first. If you need to raise the coupler there are ways of doing it depending on how the coupler is attached to car or truck.

If the height is OK, then you need to bend the pin up. How much you need to bend is usually indicated by the coupler pin gauge.

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Eric, you can get trip-pin

Eric, you can get trip-pin pliers to bend them up/down, but even the N version seem a little clumbersome.

You can also use flat-nose pliers (flat non serrated jaws - sometimes called duck-bill pliers) to grip and push/pull the trip-pin to adjust its height.

There are a couple of different height gauges... the first I know comes with a piece of steel shim to gauge the trip-pin height above the rail-head.

http://www.fiferhobby.com/products.php?sku=MT98800031

http://www.fiferhobby.com/products.php?sku=MT98800033


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Bend the trip pin?

My experience is that the trip pin can slide up and down in the hole in the coupler. I haven't tried bending the pin.

What is the official recommendation?

I have the first gauge linked in the post above. It works quite nicely. There is a thin (26 gauge? probably thinner) steel shim that sits across the track. If the pin just barely runs cleanly over the shim, then the pin is at the right height. The pin definitely should not be extending below the rail head.




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and check alignment

pushing the pin up will solve the problem. also,  once the pin is pushed up to an acceptable track clearance check the pin's left/right alignment to make sure it's in the proper place otherwise the coupler may not uncouple properly. the instruction sheet that came with the couplers will show the proper alignment. like everything there is a learning curve but after doing a few it becomes easier.

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Bend the trip pin? I would think that would break the coupler.

This is what I do too.  If the pin is slid up quite a bit I will trim the part that sticks out of the top of the coupler with rail nippers,  file it smooth, and cover the shiny metal with paint or a magic marker.

dj2kenne wrote:

My experience is that the trip pin can slide up and down in the hole in the coupler. I haven't tried bending the pin.

What is the official recommendation?

I have the first gauge linked in the post above. It works quite nicely. There is a thin (26 gauge? probably thinner) steel shim that sits across the track. If the pin just barely runs cleanly over the shim, then the pin is at the right height. The pin definitely should not be extending below the rail head.


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Bending the trip-pin
wag-zhp wrote:
 
Bend the trip pin? I would think that would break the coupler. 
If you look at the pliers in the link, you will see that there is no stress applied to the coupler when bending the pin, as all the bending happens between the jaws... these pliers are specifically designed for this task.
The hole that the pin goes through is actually rectangular (like the section on the pin), so when sliding the pin up, try not to twist it, or you will round the hole, and the pin will likely become loose... as stated, the diagram on the coupler sheet shows the correct alignment.

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Great information

Thank you sooooo much!  This is some great information.  I hope others may benefit as well.

Eric

Deer Lodge, MT


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