coking plants and steel mill modeling

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Hi all,

I am trying to research the above topic but am having trouble finding info. I read thru the 8 pages on this forum topic and didn't find one that fit so I started this one.  If you can help I would really appreciate it.  The only thing I have found so far is a 3  part series on a coking plant in an old HO Lineside Industries You can Build book from my county library.  

Thanks,

Gene 




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Steel, cola, and railroad photos

This site probably will NOT help in your quest for information on coking plants and steel mills. However the photos on this site can be an inspiration for anyone.  Kevin Scanlon is a professional photographer with an excellent reputation.  If you are interested in the heavy industry of the "Rust Belt", or the mining and railroads of the Appalachians, this site is a must.  The site is also a good lesson in photography for everyone. Pay particular attention to how he uses dawn and sunset light to great advantage.

http://lightsourcephoto.com/index.htm

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Kevin certainly is a great

Kevin certainly is a great photographer. Once again I thank you for a link, Moose.

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thanks for the sites

Moose thanks for the links.  I will look at the photos tomorrow.  I knew that Walters had the ovens and mill kits so what I am looking for is the why and how they work. In the book - Lineside Industries You can Build - HO a site plan for the coking ovens, the loads into the dump house, the conveyor to the crusher then to the ovens. I know that there is a LArry that runs along the top of the ovens to keep them charged and that there is a loco and cars on each side of the ovens one that takes the hot coke to the quenching house.  the other I forget what it does. so i guess I just need a few of the ore cars to bring ore to the mill and a few hoppers to bring the coke to the mill and a few gondolas to haul the finished product? If I can't find the exact models  I think that I would use a 44tonner around dthe site or maybe a 0-6-0?

If anyone else out there has an opinion or advice please send it in.

Right now I am in the planning stages of a small 4X8 layout with 3 coal mines. in the future I would like to add to this a complete coke and steel mill site so all my coal has an actual place to go!

Thanks again,

Gene 




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Meh.
epumph wrote:
...what I am looking for is the why and how they work...

Right now I am in the planning stages of a small 4X8 layout with 3 coal mines. in the future I would like to add to this a complete coke and steel mill site so all my coal has an actual place to go!

For an overview of the steel making process there are a number of resources available. The first are Kalmbach's two-part guide titled Industries Along the Tracks that includes sections on coal production and coal consumption. Walthers published years ago a companion book to go with their steel industry kits though the title escapes me at the moment. I would also suggest looking at railroad books in the steel making region. Morning Sun has a number of titles including two volumes of Pennsylvania Shortlines in Color, Trackside Youngstown, and two volumes of Pittsburgh & Lake Erie in Color. These books will go a long way towards showing how steel hauling railroads functioned. There are also a number of titles written on the steel industry; Making Steel: Sparrows Point and the Rise and Ruin of American Industrial Might from University of Illinois Press is a promising title that's in my stack to read soon.

As for your layout plan, good luck cramming all that in a 4x8 space! I've tried to design a layout with just a steel mill in roughly the same area and come up horribly short. To be honest you don't need to show the coal being consumed and you'll have, in the end, a much more realistic layout if you don't.

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rethinking steel!

Brian,

Thanks for the advice.  I looked at the walters models and they have very large footprints! I believe that you are right  about the cramming! I may just go with a dockside scene where the coal is off loaded to barges that take it somewhere off line.

Anyway, I haven't gotten the first portion of the layout started yet so the other part is a ways off.

Thanks again to everyone for the help,

Gene 

 




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