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    Default N-Scale Roller Coaster!

    Hey everyone! I work for a company called CoasterDynamix. We currently produce stuff in HO and O scales, but we decided to jump into the N-Scale as well
    We know you guys like classic looking stuff so we're coming out with a beautiful wooden coaster model


    The model is 7"Wide, 15" long, and 4.5" tall. It does not actually run (due to size issues), however it is made of real wood, stained to look weathered and classic, and designed after the classic coasters that still exist today. Since the product is still in development, we want to hear from you all to see what you do and don't like about it. The price point will be somewhere near $35 and it will come as a kit (pre-stained). We would love to hear some feedback about the model so we can make it even better before it is released!

    Thanks!

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    This is a model railroading forum.

    Having said that here are some suggestions:

    It needs N scale car sets. (Roller coaster cars, not freight cars. LOL) I can not see the rails you are using very well in the photo, but what I see does not appear to be prototypical. (I may be wrong about that, but I suggest that you look at Micro Engineering's code 40 rail and narrow guage track.)

    The structural members appear to be dimentionally too large for N scale. Prototype roller coasters have a more 'spidery' appearance.

    It needs to run.....automatically. Without animation it becomes a very large paper weight. (My granddaughter says it is too hard to keep dusted for a static display.)

    The wood's color makes it appear like new construction. That is not a bad thing if that is the intent. If you want to pre-color it for model railroaders, make it appear older and weathered. (Model railroaders love weathering.)
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    Have fun.

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    Well, if you're looking for criticism or things to improve, I agree with Moose. The superstructure... the wood is too big and there's not enough of it. You may need to go to styrene or even metal to get it to look right.

    I'd have to see a closer-up view of the rails to make a judgement.

    And yes, having actual roller coaster cars that really do run would be a HUGE plus.
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    We are thinking about moving to a 1/16th inch wood to make it seem less... 'chunky'. Problem is the price of that wood is much higher than 1/8th inch. Since this is more of a 'structure' than anything, we wanted to keep it at a reasonable price (near $35). What would you be willing to pay for a more accurate model?

    This issue of price is reflected on the coaster not being a working model. If we had working trains, and a lift hill that works automatically, there is no way this thing would sell for under $100 (The HO wooden coaster we sell that DOES work goes for $160 retail and includes nearly the same amount of parts).

    Making it out of metal/styrene also increases the price (quite considerably).

    Keep the suggestions coming!

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    Like Moose said, your product is not dimensional to N Scale standards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrifterNL View Post
    Looking at the picture it looks like a very small ride .
    I was thinking the same thing.
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    Have you guys thought of making both a static and working model?
    Have to say A bigger ride would be better
    I personal would not mind paying $180-$200+ for a fully working model roller coaster
    Also not to be mean but It looks like more of a cool thing to have on your desk then an model bigger is better!

    I`ve Always looked at your kits and I have to say Thanks for coming into N

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    For a good model that works, I would pay more.
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    Here is the approximate footprint of the roller coaster compared to a GE AC4400CW and Alco RS2.
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    Last edited by DrifterNL; 6th May 2010 at 05:59 PM. Reason: BryanC was confused :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrifterNL View Post
    Here is the footprint compared to a GE AC4400CW and Alco RS2.
    Eh, Drifter, did you get the right thread! Your images do not seem roller coaster related!

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    I think he did
    Hes showing off the size of the models base

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    Quote Originally Posted by CodyO View Post
    I think he did
    Hes showing off the size of the models base
    Yeah you are probably right - I just didn't read it correctly! Still, I'm not quite sure of what was being said!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrifterNL View Post
    Here is the approximate footprint of the roller coaster compared to a GE AC4400CW and Alco RS2.
    If the scale is correct and I don't doubt it is, this coaster is small.
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    The coaster actually IS done to N-scale. It is close to the same scaled height as the HO Comet model we make.

    It is 55ft scaled, which is accurate to the types of coasters made in the 30s and 40s. The wood beams are thicker so that it does not get crushed when assembling.

    The size of the coaster is driven by ease of assembly and cost. We are working on an O-scale model similar to this, and the major complain is "We can't fit it in our layout". What we are offering is a very realistic roller coaster model for a low price that is easy to assemble. It's nice to want a big model, but we know from experience that train guys don't want to spend 10+hrs building something with tiny parts that are breakable.

    If we wanted to sell an N-scale, working, HYPER-realistic model, it would cost northward of $150, be REALLY hard to build, and probably not work well due to dust and other factors. Remember, roller coasters are gravity-driven, not electrically. If you get just a spec of dust in an axle, you really hurt the efficiency of the whole train. Our HO model displays some of these problems, and if we went to an N-scale working model, you would only amplify these problems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DLDude View Post

    It is 55ft scaled, which is accurate to the types of coasters made in the 30s and 40s. The wood beams are thicker so that it does not get crushed when assembling.
    It actually reminds me very much of an old, smaller amusement park near where I grew up. I like it, except for the size of the timbers.

    How hard would it be to repaint it in white with red trim?

    Quote Originally Posted by DLDude View Post
    It's nice to want a big model, but we know from experience that train guys don't want to spend 10+hrs building something with tiny parts that are breakable.
    LOL. You haven't been around N-Scalers much, have you?

    Quote Originally Posted by DLDude View Post
    If we wanted to sell an N-scale, working, HYPER-realistic model, it would cost northward of $150, be REALLY hard to build, and probably not work well due to dust and other factors. Remember, roller coasters are gravity-driven, not electrically. If you get just a spec of dust in an axle, you really hurt the efficiency of the whole train. Our HO model displays some of these problems, and if we went to an N-scale working model, you would only amplify these problems.
    Here, you have a point. A purely gravity-driven N scale roller coaster would be really hard to make work without some precision miniature components.
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    Personally, if it don't have an engine or a loco there be no interest under my roofs.
    OK, it's 9mm....so is my Glock, and it's not going to be worked into the layout either .
    Maybe i just don't get it

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    Pappy,

    I think it's supposed to be a structure or scenery element, like a building. So your train could run past an amusement park.

    Like here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TwinDad View Post
    Pappy,

    I think it's supposed to be a structure or scenery element, like a building. So your train could run past an amusement park.

    Like here.
    I think that is exactly it! A purely scenic element!

    I have heard lots of discussions over the year about people wanting to include an amusement park in their layouts!

    Many decried the lack of roller coasters!

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    I could see someone using this in a small amusement park or on an N-Trak module. Not my cup of tea, but I do know several people who would buy it if it came with roller coaster cars (working or not)
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    We are also considering doing a couple other basic kits (such as a ferris wheel and Euclid Beach Rockets [http://www.therocketcar.com/images/rocket2.jpg]). Again, making these working models becomes problematic (and drives up price), however those models would be a bit easier to throw a motor on than a coaster. There really isnt much available in terms on N-Scale amusement park stuff. Does this kind of stuff sound interesting?

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