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    I like the idea of removing the double cross over. There is still room too add another spur on either side of the reverse track. I see that Jason added a small piece of sectional to top and bottom before the half oval (circle). good idea and you could gain a bit on the other side too. As far as flex version - shouldn't be too difficult. the reverse track is by necessity flex. I just need to spend some time on my layout and my income tax!
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    I think it looks good. The only thing I would add would be a spur on the upper left. This would allow more opportunities for future expansion on the left end. see attached.
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    Pretty good so far. if you"flip" the two end-most turnouts across the bottom, you can use them in place of the last bit of curve, and get a longer siding out of it... and get rid of an S-curve in the process...
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    I've made some changes to the layout based on the suggestion by Chad. Also, I reversed the bottom most turnouts. TwinDad, if this wasn't what you meant please let me know. Thanks.

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    Jason, what TD was referring to was the use of the divergent route as part of the curve then fill in with half radius or flex. so you would move the last - Bottom - turnout to where the last or next to the last curve sections is and go from there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by epumph View Post
    Jason, what TD was referring to was the use of the divergent route as part of the curve then fill in with half radius or flex. so you would move the last - Bottom - turnout to where the last or next to the last curve sections is and go from there.
    I'm having difficulty visualizing this. Could you illustrate what you mean? Thanks.

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    I'd be glad to but I have my daughter and family for the weekend so I am stealing bits of time and may not get to xtrackcad until later Sunday.
    Got a few minutes during nap time so I did some work. Excuse the hack job bout for what ever reason I could not get the program to join tracks using the flex track so I gave up. the plan here shows how you can use the divergent route as part of a curve...
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    I had a few minutes so I played with it. The reason you could not get the turnouts to tie in together is the tracks were being considered parallel tracks. They were too close together to allow any curve so the program won't make that connection. I had to use number 6 turnouts to get it to work on mine. For some reason 4's weren't working either.



    I think the same thing is happening here that we had in the guinea pig. Everything is right angled. The tracks come to the center the make 45* turns straght out. I just think it needs some change in direction. Just my opinion. Oh, and I put in the spur up top.
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    Yep, I kept getting the parallel track waring and didn't know what it meant or how to fix it...
    I don't know if this would help your other issue but you could put a left t/o on the inner loop just past the one for the reverse loop and work some sidings for and industrial park or a yard or an engine facility. Just a thought
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    Thanks Gene, I don't know that it is really a "problem" rather than just an observation on my part. Since we started this whole program I am seeing things in a different light and for some reason right angles are buggin me. My entire layout is full of them and I despise it more and more every time I look at my tables.......Not a good thing.....LOL

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    Did I kill this one too??!? I have a 28'x32' waiting in the wings to get going!

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    Quote Originally Posted by REM37411 View Post
    Did I kill this one too??!?
    Nah, I think we got this one as far as we need. most of the changes that might be made are just moving turnouts (or adding more spurs). I think that should be left to who ever wants to use the model. Also, if someone wanted to have modifications and didn't have the skills to use xtrackcad or RTS, etc then he/she could just post the plan and needed changes and get some help here.
    Anyone else care to chime in? Are we ready for a 28FOOTx32FOOT layout!?
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    Quote Originally Posted by REM37411 View Post
    Did I kill this one too??!?
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    Quote Originally Posted by epumph View Post
    Nah, I think we got this one as far as we need. most of the changes that might be made are just moving turnouts (or adding more spurs). I think that should be left to who ever wants to use the model. Also, if someone wanted to have modifications and didn't have the skills to use xtrackcad or RTS, etc then he/she could just post the plan and needed changes and get some help here.
    Anyone else care to chime in? Are we ready for a 28FOOTx32FOOT layout!?
    I agree, and think also that this one is done as well. A 28 foot x 32 foot layout though? now that'd be something to see!

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    Don't forget, that with large layouts, tackle them in sections (building blocks), and piece them together.
    This way, these building blocks can be reused in other designs.
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    LOL, I have no plans of presenting a layout of that size to the group. I might have something up my sleeve but it isn't going to be a community plan, just a fantasy.

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    I like the look of this layout. I am a beginner again guy so it looks interesting for me and my son to build. I downloaded this on the download section but what is XTC? And is there a track material list available?

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    its a program called Xtracad or something like that , I believe it is a free program

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    xtrakcad is a free download, just google and download, unpack it and run it. there should be a jpeg of the layout also. I think I have it so if you want to look at the layout you could use it

    here is the link to xtrakcad:
    http://xtrkcad-model-rr-track-planner.soft112.com/


    there is a series of tutorials too that are quite helpful.
    http://www.xtrkcad.org/Wikka/HowTo

    FYI be mindful that you will need some form of auto or manual switch to change the polarity due to the reverse loop create by the track that cuts thru the layout form upper right to lower left.

    let me know if I can help.
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    If you get XTC running then open the .xtc file. go to Options>Display>Label Enable>Track check the Track box and close with OK. then zoom in and the track descriptions should be displayed.
    The track used in the design is Atlas Code 55. Right now (for the last yr or more) Atlas track is not available. you can use others like Kato Uni track, Micor Engineering and Peco but the plan would probably need to be redrawn.
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