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    Do it Charles , do it !

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    I've contacted sellers in the past to tell them their listings have mis-prints, they accidentally listed something for 200.00 rather than 20.00 and usually get some extremely rude replies back. One guy replied once to tell me if I don't like the price I don't have to bid. I didn't reply. Then like a day later I get a longer message from him about how he's so sick of people telling him what his things are worth he's been selling for X years and knows the market and it's people like me that are ruining ebay. They're very touchy about their price gouging. Once though I got a reply back thanking me because it was a genuine mistype that set the price too high

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    Quote Originally Posted by aflica View Post
    Do it Charles , do it !

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    Quote Originally Posted by baronjutter View Post
    I've contacted sellers in the past to tell them their listings have mis-prints, they accidentally listed something for 200.00 rather than 20.00 and usually get some extremely rude replies back. One guy replied once to tell me if I don't like the price I don't have to bid. I didn't reply. Then like a day later I get a longer message from him about how he's so sick of people telling him what his things are worth he's been selling for X years and knows the market and it's people like me that are ruining ebay. They're very touchy about their price gouging. Once though I got a reply back thanking me because it was a genuine mistype that set the price too high
    a misprint or price gouging is one thing ,but to blatently sell broken goods is a bit too far, I feel bad for the person who buys it for someone else thinking it's something.....

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    You know what chaps my hide? When some *sshammer loads up about 58 freight cars and lists them all at once under "Locomotives".

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    What are your thoughts on Feedback Nagging?

    Seller has messaged twice about leaving feedback. I responded both times that I always do. I am 3 weeks behind. He would have received a Positive.
    My philosophy is to leave feedback for a buyer after their prompt payment. Most sellers leave me feedback first, often before I receive their item.
    Am I being an old fart or is this nagging and borderline rude? He has not left me feedback yet, assuming waiting on me.

    What would you do? Ignore him, forget him, try to "enlighten" him or just leave feedback (and a choice comment)...??

    Message thread:

    Hi there
    I wanted to send you a reminder and ask you to leave positive feedback for this item.
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    Dear cadama27,
    Will you be leaving positive feedback?
    Victor

    Dear victor,
    yes, always do
    though despise being nagged
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    Thanks for reminding me, I needed to leave feedback for an item that was sent to me yesterday. Originally, it was the wrong item. I used Ebay email, it was corrected within a week. The seller was very responsive, and quick to make it right. And, I got to keep the $26.00 wrong item! Both transactions took a little over a week, and I am a happy camper.
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    My belief has always been that the buyer has done their job when they pay - that's when I leave feedback. The buyer leaving feedback - well, that's something else. I get feedback from about one in six buyers.
    I feel like the fastest way to get a negative would be to bug them, so I just move on.
    As a buyer, I leave it when I get a chance to see if it works, if that kind of buy or as soon as I open and check it otherwise. Always leave it unless it's questionable and not worth a fight. Sellers who don't feedback until after the buyer does are actually breaking Ebay's rules, but try to prove it.
    Sometimes, you just have to move on.

    I think I'd send a message - "Are you going to post feedback for me? I already completed my part of the transaction?"

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    I think when emails are positioned asking if you are happy with the transaction, please let us know if there is anything else we can do, and if you are happy please leave positive feedback is far less nagging and gets to the same (probably better) result of reminding the seller to maybe give feedback. Those messages don't bother me as much (usually received from Chinese vendors that probably do huge volume).

    To your original question -- I would leave feedback on the transaction (and ignore the nagging). Maybe they really need to start selling more to pay the bills and are hoping to get more positive feedback, maybe they are really trying hard to pack and ship things with careful attention and want to be recognized, whatever... I would not let it get to you too much and just give feedback on how the transaction was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jugtown Modeler View Post
    What are your thoughts on Feedback Nagging?


    Dear victor,
    yes, always do
    though despise being nagged
    - cadama27
    I think you've done a fine job with that note.
    If he doesn't understand that, then he's too dense to ever figure it out for himself.

    As a seller, like Don said. less than 1 in 6 is the number I get for feedback after I sell something.
    I don't let it bother too much as I do not make a living off of Feebay, I use it for more of a dumping ground and to scare up a little cash from time to time, but damnit it's nice to get SOME feedback.

    When I sell something, I give them around 2 weeks to leave a feedback. If after that I still don't hear something, then I send a polite email stating that I would like to know if the item(s) has arrived and if it's in satisfactory condition?
    If so please leave feedback so that I know it arrived and you're happy with it.

    After that I never send them another note, I figure they'll respond or they won't.

    Believe it or not, about 50% will respond, of those 50% around 15% of them will actually reply to my email saying "Yes! I got the item and everything is good. Thanks for checking!" And will not leave me feedback, jerks!


    When that happens they get a free pass to my list of blocked bidders. I actually had one try to bid on something else I had listed later.
    When he figured out that he could leave a bid I got an email from him asking "Why? I just bought something from you a few weeks ago, why can't I bid now?

    I don't reply.................................Then I move on and continue to leave feedback for others who have done their part and paid.
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    Feedback is one of the things I really despise about ebay, as there's no way to reward exceptional service. It's just glorifying mediocrity. All the seller needs to do is properly describe the product and ship it out in a timely manner. If they do that, all they've done is what they said they'd do under ebay's terms of service. How does that deserve anything more than an average rating? 99% of my ebay transactions have been pretty much just that. I have had some awesome transactions where the seller went out of their way to make an item available for me or include a bonus item. How do I say that's exceptional? Write a comment that noone reads? All people give a crap about is numbers. So mediocrity gets rewarded same as exceptional. It's a stupid system.

    Then there's the rating where I have to give a star value to the communication... If we didn't communicate, just made a transaction, why does that deserve a star at all? I have no idea what their communication is like, we didn't talk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ranulf View Post
    Feedback is one of the things I really despise about ebay, as there's no way to reward exceptional service. It's just glorifying mediocrity. All the seller needs to do is properly describe the product and ship it out in a timely manner. If they do that, all they've done is what they said they'd do under ebay's terms of service. How does that deserve anything more than an average rating? 99% of my ebay transactions have been pretty much just that. I have had some awesome transactions where the seller went out of their way to make an item available for me or include a bonus item. How do I say that's exceptional? Write a comment that noone reads? All people give a crap about is numbers. So mediocrity gets rewarded same as exceptional. It's a stupid system.

    Then there's the rating where I have to give a star value to the communication... If we didn't communicate, just made a transaction, why does that deserve a star at all? I have no idea what their communication is like, we didn't talk.
    I agree.
    And if you don't give five stars, then they will block you or send you nasty note.

    or better yet, eBay will send you a note asking why you didn't leave a higher feedback or was there something wrong?

    Stupid...
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    Along the lines of feedback, what chaps me is "watchers". I had a 3 pack of LPG tankcars that had 15 watchers on it yet only 3 different bidders. In the future, I'm tempted to add to my descriptions something to the effect of "if you're watching this with no intention of bidding, please unwatch before 24 hours of end of auction". I was kind of excited I might have a bidding war erupt to watch it sit there with no bids in last 12 hours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mu26aeh View Post
    Along the lines of feedback, what chaps me is "watchers". I had a 3 pack of LPG tankcars that had 15 watchers on it yet only 3 different bidders. In the future, I'm tempted to add to my descriptions something to the effect of "if you're watching this with no intention of bidding, please unwatch before 24 hours of end of auction". I was kind of excited I might have a bidding war erupt to watch it sit there with no bids in last 12 hours.
    I find I only get 1 bidder for every 6 watchers. I don't let it bug me. I watch auctions sometimes to see what the item sells for. Sometimes something I want will get resisted for less, so I save some money sometimes.

    I don't give feedback on a buyer until after they give me my feedback. I don't know if they are going to make it a good transaction or miserable transaction until that point. When I buy I try to give feedback as soon as I have the item. I find that is a fair system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jpwisc View Post
    I find I only get 1 bidder for every 6 watchers. I don't let it bug me. I watch auctions sometimes to see what the item sells for. Sometimes something I want will get resisted for less, so I save some money sometimes.
    ditto... I will often watch stuff to see what happens, if it doesn't sell it will notify me when the item has been relisted then I'll either buy it or let it go.

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