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    Exclamation MTL Announcement / Preview: True-Scale coupler system!

    Joe D'Amato of Micro Trains has put up a preview on TrainBoard of their new True-Scale coupler system!

    http://www.trainboard.com/highball/i...-system.97901/

    MTL Magne-Matic vs True-Scale:

    MTL True Scale Coupler.JPG

    EDIT:
    True-Scale vs z scale 905:

    N True-Scale vs z scale 905.jpgN True-Scale vs z scale 905 2.jpg

    Edit:
    Video from Micro Trains:

    Last edited by DrifterNL; 1st Oct 2016 at 01:39 PM. Reason: Added Info


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    Am I the only one who noticed the very nicely weathered cars with shiny plastic couplers?

    I'm gonna be curious to see how they hold up with a long string of cars. If they're strong enough to pull a string of 100 cars and robust enough to deal with and NTRAK trackage imperfections they might be winners in my circles.

    I think the air hoses are likely to get broken off and lost pretty quickly though.
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    They look nice... but... do we all want to start over with couplers?
    Did someone say whitcomb?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Intermodalman View Post
    They look nice... but... do we all want to start over with couplers?
    Well, the fact that these are incompatible with anything else and don't feature magnetic action will make these a nonstarter for many people. I doubt these will get much use beyond the fronts/ends of consists or dedicated consists.

    If I'm being honest, I was much more interested in the prospect of NZT Protomate couplers from a few years back... these not so much (although now we know why MTL put out that survey however long ago that was).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Intermodalman View Post
    They look nice... but... do we all want to start over with couplers?
    If they look this good and work... Yes.

    This could be the equivalent to the HO guys who run Sargeant couplers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Intermodalman View Post
    They look nice... but... do we all want to start over with couplers?
    Personally yes. Plus, for me at least, it wouldn't be so much starting over as it would be... starting. I still don't have very many trains, and they're all a mix of the Kato, Micro-Trains, Accumate, or McHenry they came with. So, assuming these aren't too expensive and they're compatible with all (or at least most) of my rolling stock, I'll be first in line to buy them.



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    Personally... i want to give them a try, but I'm not super excited for them
    Did someone say whitcomb?

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    With all the work to kinda make them look more realistic, why mold them in shiny black. Couldn't they make the extra effort to make them look like rusty steel?

    I'd hope they would mold the hose in something flexible.

    Will I buy them, most likely no. These are a body mount coupler. Unless they come a dollar a dozen, I cannot afford to redo all my non-traction equipment.

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    I like the looks of that! Hope they are simple enough to swap, they look like there aren't alot of pieces so hopefully theyll be relatively inexpensive. The air hose is a neat touch, must be delrin or something flexible I bet.

    I'd for sure use these on engines and cars I spent a good deal of time on. It'll make close coupling an MU set sweet. I could see building some "transition" cars with an old magnetic coupler on one end and this new one on the other until the whole roster is converted.

    Is Joe a member here? If not we should recruit him! He seems like a nice enough guy, and definitely gets N scale.

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    At first I thought it was a Kato coupler because it does look similar. The thing that most makes the car on the left unrealistic to me is the brass coloured uncoupling pin MT insist on using.

    I don't use magnetic uncoupling but not being compatible with other N scale couplers is what loses my vote until I see more revues or get some to try out in person. IMHO you might as well use non-working dummy couplers or drawbars. They look like the ideal way to close that ridiculous gap between IM F units but I don't want to lose the ability to couple them to other units or just pull a train with a single unit or AB set. I would have rather seen them expand the range of Z scale couplers beyond the #905 and call them N scale.

    Having said that I don't suppose we can go forward if we keep making things backwardly compatible for ever, you could say most of the same things when the first N scale Kadees came out comparing them with arnold couplers.

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    The "start over with couplers" issue will not matter to those with small inventory, those with 13 inch minimum radius, and those who accept that they're not compatible, and will convert ALL their rolling stock. Otherwise these couplers will be window dressing on the front and tail end of trains. I'm all for more selection, and more products available in N scale. It's a positive. That being said, I think it will be a minimum market type thing, and will not create a revolution, like rapidos to knuckles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Intermodalman View Post
    but... do we all want to start over with couplers?
    No not me, wont live long enough or get enough money saved!
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    Does make you wonder what else Micro Trains has up their sleeves....
    True-Scale couplers molded in rusty brown color?
    True-Scale shelf couplers?

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    If they start producing the true scale couplers on their rolling stock then I wont be able to buy/use them!
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    Quote Originally Posted by epumph View Post
    If they start producing the true scale couplers on their rolling stock then I wont be able to buy/use them!
    Coupler conversion car?

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    I doubt they will be sold with rolling stock. It would create too many hassles for compatibility. This is a product for those who want to improve the looks and remove the annoying oscillation of the existing couplers. If the coupling is decent, I think it will be worth it for many. I can't stand the oscillation so this is a real improvement from my perspective.

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    Am i the only one who thinks these still look to large and out of scale? I'd like to see them next to a Z scale coupler for comparison as i think the Z coupler is pretty close to N.

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    I could see them being included with new cars, like how they used to include low profile wheels to swap in.

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    I'll probably buy a few just to try to close the gap between my Intermountain F units, as they have body mounted 1015s. If they choose to go with a brown colored coupler, I hope they have it with a black box. In the past they had brown couplers available, but they didn't look right with a brown coupler box sticking out.

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