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    Well Model Railroader has done it again, I got suckered into buying their "Build a Small Model Railroad, Winter 2018" special edition. Ordered it from Amazon thinking I would get new articles; and low and behold when I get it everything in it was a reprint of articles out of the normal magazine, some of the articles were almost 10 years old. In the past MRR used to put something in the descriptions of their special editions like "from the pages of Model Railroader" or similar to let people know the special edition was nothing but reprints, but I guess they have quit doing even that. I quit subscribing their magazine almost a year back because of their lack of customer service, and now it appears I might as well not buy any of their books or special editions anymore also. Seems they can't be bothered to put an accurate description out on their products any more.

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    Ayup. Welcome to modern magazine publishing. I stopped buying RC Car Action when I paid $14.95 for 150 pages of adverts and 50 pages of paid promotions by Traxxas. I never even bothered picking up any MRR rags because I automatically assumed them to be no different.


    Honestly, with the ratio of advertising to content in the modern hobby mag, they should be paying us for the privelege. Or, at least, subsidized so completely by ad revenue alone that the mag itself is free.
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    Model Railroad Hobbyist.....

    E magazine that is free is totally funded by the advertisers.
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    And they are "auto-renewed" like many magazines now. So convenient! Your subscription renewal is taken care of automatically and your credit card is charged, so you are buying it in perpetuity (unless you make the call and talk to someone to stop it).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bessemer Bob View Post
    Model Railroad Hobbyist.....

    E magazine that is free is totally funded by the advertisers.
    Ditto, love referencing that one.

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    I stay far away from MRR mag.
    the above mentioned Model Railroad Hobbyist is the way to go - just register and you are in.
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    Moose concur, two hooves for online Model Railroad Hobbyist.
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    Model Railroader is a shadow of its former self.

    Little or no original information in the monthly issues let alone the "specials" and the most expensive magazine I receive.

    I made the call. February '18 is my last issue.
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    I still check out MRR when I am at Barnes and Nobles etc and if there is an interesting article I will purchase a copy, but at this point there is not enough new information or material to warrant a subscription for me.

    Thats what I like about MRH. I can get the E mag right on my laptop, look through it and if there is something I like Ill read it and come back to it whenever I want.

    Oh on a side note, clicks = sponsors. I try to click on the adds of stuff I find interesting, only takes a few seconds and it helps keep MRH free.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xmtrman View Post
    Model Railroader is a shadow of its former self.
    WIth only a couple exceptions for lost or damaged copies, I have every issue from December 1994 to present (And the same goes for TRAINS Magazine, from probably Mid-1996 to present). Before I removed my home layout, they were arranged by month in magazine boxes on bookshelves under the layout. The late-90's were nice, thick magazines - so thick a month hardly fit in your typical magazine box. Fast forward to the last few years, and I could fit 2 or 3 years worth of magazines in a box. Though I must say, Its nice to see N-scale getting more press in their publication as of late.

    I still subscribe to both Trains and MR, but I do occasionally consider stopping. I've also considered going through 22 years of MR and cutting out articles that I value and scrapping the whole collection. Boy they take up a lot of space....especially the earlier issues! :-)

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    I only subscribe to one site that serves as my GoTo "magazine."

    No subscription costs, always at my fingertips, constantly fresh material, great subject matter, always in my scale, how-tos, news, events, great photography and most importantly, what traditional mags can't offer: community.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bessemer Bob View Post
    Thats what I like about MRH. I can get the E mag right on my laptop, look through it and if there is something I like Ill read it and come back to it whenever I want.
    Not to mention it's search capabilities, so you can search for a topic and find it in the archives try doing that with a paper magazine :yikes:

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    Quote Originally Posted by zosimas View Post
    try doing that with a paper magazine
    It can be done, but you always end up with paper cuts!!!


    I also like the fact that MRH has some serious modelers on the team.... For me personally Mike Rose and Mike Confalone articles are a favorite, and not to mention MRH has some good YouTube content including Ken Patterson's videos.

    I digress, that is the great thing about being in the hobby these days. We really have some good options, not to forget two N scale magazines, MR Craftsmen etc etc etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moose2013 View Post
    Moose concur, two hooves for online Model Railroad Hobbyist.
    If I had hooves, I'd add my two hooves to MRH as well. There are still ads but the magazine is free. And honestly, I want to see some ads and the ads that I'm interested in I can click on to investigate further. Only downside is it's HO focused, but still interesting and useful.
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    Till about a year ago I would have vouched for MRR, I like reading from paper in bed just before I go to sleep. As of late I am thinking of not renewing my subscription, the magazine is getting thinner and thinner . I do believe they do this on purpose to force you to got to there Video subscription , something I have no need for at all ( youtube provides in that ).

    As for the special editions , they still tell you in the adds if they are using old material or new, one of the reasons I didn't buy the Build a Small Model Railroad special. And the one time I did accidentally buy a special edition with old articles I wrote an email to Kalmbach and they gave me a coupon to buy another book or magazine.
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    Why pay for something that can be gotten from here or elsewhere on the internet for free? Doesn't, and never will, make sense to me.

    In my opinion, these magazines and so forth are little more than an exploitation of the hobby.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bessemer Bob View Post
    Oh on a side note, clicks = sponsors. I try to click on the adds of stuff I find interesting, only takes a few seconds and it helps keep MRH free.
    Absolutely agreed. It's the first thing I do when a new issue comes out, and some of their sponsors are on my short list of vendors, like Streamlined Backshop (my personal go-to for all things DCC).

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    I mostly concur, but there are a couple of reasons I'm not ready to give up on MRR completely.

    1. Product reviews -- more than in MRH
    2. Tony Koester's column
    3. Access to the all-time digital archives for about $2.70/month (once in a while I dive down that rabbit hole).

    Still, I find myself spending more time with MRH and N Scale than all the MRR resources combined.
    I also occasionally pick up RMC for a specific model build of interest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wombat457 View Post
    In my opinion, these magazines and so forth are little more than an exploitation of the hobby.
    Wow , exploitation of the hobby , in my opinion the Hobby wouldn't have been and wouldn't be what it is now without those magazines, they have done a ton of good for the hobby and still do that , but maybe the internet reached Australia 50 years before the rest of the world
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    I think "exploitation" maybe a little much, however maybe they are "milking" what's left of their run. It seems to me magazines (regardless of genre) have seen their "hay day" and will gradually be replaced by the internet as is already becoming evident. There still exists the baby-boomer crowd that wants old fashioned print but I think one more generation will see a rapid decline of print media. By the time my future grandchildren are my age they won't know what a magazine is.

    just my 2 cents.

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