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Thread: Hobby "Myths and Mysteries"...

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingmeow View Post
    If you reply with quote, then your reply would still be valid even if the original was changed.
    Myth : you dont need to have a quote in every reply
    Just thought i would get the thread back on track

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    Mystery: How in the world does a Moose work in N scale?????

    Actual mystery: That tiny widget pops off into......somewhere it will never, ever be found again! And we spend hours searching! So where is this never to be found place?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Metrolink View Post
    Doh! I meant modelrailroadforums.com! There's a few really helpful people there, and I really learned a lot from them, but the overall activity tends to be pretty spotty.
    I had never been to that forum, just had a look , one of the reasons it might have a lack of activity is because it is very general and there are quite a number of general model railroading forums. I go to 3 forums , nScale.net obviously because of the speciality, amerikaanse-treinen.nl my own Dutch forum with the speciality of being all about American trains in the Dutch language , and modelersforum.com which at first glance would seem general too but is more specialized in craftsmen structure building and ditto layouts. All 3 have plenty of activity ( the Dutch forum is a very small community but very active ).
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    Quote Originally Posted by badlandnp View Post
    Mystery: How in the world does a Moose work in N scale?????
    Moose has been wondering that for years...
    ~ Moose (Co-founder of the Mt. Tahoma & Pacific Railroad, located some where in the Pacific Northwest)

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    Quote Originally Posted by badlandnp View Post
    Actual mystery: That tiny widget pops off into......somewhere it will never, ever be found again! And we spend hours searching! So where is this never to be found place?
    How true! I removed the carpet from my office and replaced it with laminate flooring to cut down on this problem.
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    Mystery: Why it is okay for the roundy round crowd to bash rivet counters, but when its flipped, the rivet counters are mean and bullies?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ike the BN Freak View Post
    Mystery: Why it is okay for the roundy round crowd to bash rivet counters, but when its flipped, the rivet counters are mean and bullies?
    No one knows. Just one of those facts of life that will forever remain a mystery.
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    Do we see a lot of that here ? I guess i have seen it a few times , but fairly rare i would think .
    I'm somewhere in the middle of my own desire for detail . But i do love the work "rivet counters" do . I can appreciate the work they do , the research , and the commitment in their craft . I will never acheive that , but its great to see . But when i see a layout i dont like or seeing it going in a direction that i dont like , i refer to rule #1 , and leave my 2 cents out of the discussion . At least i try to , maybe I've been guilty of early criticism , but i dont push . So if a person wants a "roundy rounder" , i dont see too many "rivet counters" chime in on that thread . But it happens at times .
    Mistery : yes . Will it go away completely , no . But at least here it is minimal

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpwisc View Post
    MYTH: Super detailing and rivet counting are a bad thing.
    Not necessarily bad, but just not everyone's 'thing'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wentzeljr View Post
    Not necessarily bad, but just not everyone's 'thing'.
    And neither are roundy-rounds and unitrack, but we don’t belittle those like people insult rivet counters around here.
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    Is not the term "roundy-round" a disparagement?
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    Quote Originally Posted by el Gato Gordo View Post
    Is not the term "roundy-round" a disparagement?
    Yes, done in this context to make a point. I’m reiterating Ike’s point.
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    As someone who could easily be considered to be very far to the "rivet counter" end of the spectrum, I haven't really experienced any of that negativity. I suppose that has to do a lot with minding my own business. I'd gladly discuss my work at length and people respond positively, but other people's work is another matter. People probably don't like rivet counters because they likely offer certain kinds of comments where they are not welcome. I refrain from commenting on the work others in many cases because I feel even though it may be just a suggestion it would read as criticism. People don't like being told how to do their models any more than they like being told how to raise their children. It's one thing if suggestions and critique are being solicited and another when they aren't. You can't force people to want to improve something--they must want it themselves first. Fortunately, I learned my lessons before entering the model railroad hobby. I used to be the know-it-all who always corrected people's spelling, grammar, usage, and factual accuracy. People hated that. Over time, I just learned that it wasn't helpful so nowadays I let most things slide, even though they still bother me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aflica View Post
    Do we see a lot of that here ? I guess i have seen it a few times , but fairly rare i would think .
    It's true that it's fairly rare here. Again, this is one of the friendliest, most accepting groups of folks here. I absolutely love continuous-running and rail-fanning my own trains.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpwisc View Post
    Yes, done in this context to make a point. I’m reiterating Ike’s point.
    Sorry, I was interrupted and didn't get a chance to finish my post until now. The wrap up would have been that I have yet to see any comments to which I might take offense. Operations folks, so-called rivet counters, and roundy-rounds all have our place. None is more valid than any other. There's a bunch of nice helpful people here regardless of anyone's particular interest or ability.
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    Quote Originally Posted by el Gato Gordo View Post
    Sorry, I was interrupted and didn't get a chance to finish my post until now. The wrap up would have been that I have yet to see any comments to which I might take offense. Operations folks, so-called rivet counters, and roundy-rounds all have our place. None is more valid than any other. There's a bunch of nice helpful people here regardless of anyone's particular interest or ability.
    You don’t have to look to far to find comments disparaging rivet counting here. I fully agree all the different variations on the hobby have their place, but like Ike pointed out there are double standards. It is acceptable on this board to bash rivet counters, it’s become common place here. But Ike and I know all to well, if a rivet counter returns the favor, people would lose their minds.
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    In my opinion rivet-counters are not bashed here as long as they rivet count their own layouts , quite the contrary actually , we love super detailing and rivet counting , just not when the rivet-counter tells a non-rivet-counter what they should do with their layout. mmmmmm , is this still making sense ?

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    However I've seen it plenty of times where an individual will ask of a group, how did the prototype do something, or is this detailed correctly based off prototype, and someone will always have to post, "Rule 1, its your railroad, do as you wish," which is useless for the person asking the question. So when a "rivet counter" comes along, the rule 1 person comes along and always has to post "Rule 1," again, which never is helpful. Which is were mostly I see the rivet counter bashing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ike the BN Freak View Post
    However I've seen it plenty of times where an individual will ask of a group, how did the prototype do something, or is this detailed correctly based off prototype, and someone will always have to post, "Rule 1, its your railroad, do as you wish," which is useless for the person asking the question.
    That's not bashing the rivet counter , that's not reading the OP's post , which does happen a lot here , especially on DC or DCC threads.
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    Mystery: Why did Lego destroy their train line? Just looking for a Lego trainset for my godson when he turns five, today's Lego trains are just plain stupid. You can put them together exactly one way (the way the instructions say), they consist purely of special parts... no way you can build a crane car out of a tank car any more - I have so many good memories of my Lego trains, but it seems they are a thing of the past.

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