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    Default Bachmann 2-6-6-2 Proof / Prototype Questions

    So I bought an odd lot from Stout Auctions -- a set of 3x Bachmann 2-6-6-2 engines that include a couple that are seemingly proof / prototype units or something. I suppose these could be someone scratch building something as well but the auction seemed to have a bunch of Bachmann proofs / prototypes (posters / pictures as well as mostly HO trains). Someone who knows better the development process these companies go through may be able to hypothesize better.

    They all run nice and smooth so thinking about what I should do with them.

    I am not used to looking at the details on these units so was wondering if anyone can easily tell if these are same as production models or different -- maybe just modeling a different prototype, simply different details, missing details, etc... (other than some of the gear being brass and some plastic parts being different colors and the coal load needing some coal). Anyway, seems pretty interesting to get a view into the proof / prototype development process.

    First this is a production vandy-tender (H-4) version that I had bought previously...
    Production Vandy 2-6-6-2 side.jpg
    Production Vandy 2-6-6-2 top.jpg
    Production Vandy 2-6-6-2 front.jpg

    Then here is the proof vandy-tender (H-4) version that I just bought...
    Proof Vandy 2-6-6-2 side.jpg
    Proof Vandy 2-6-6-2 top.jpg
    Proof Vandy 2-6-6-2 front.jpg

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    And here are the two USRA units I got in the lot... First looks like it might simply be an undecorated production model but not sure...

    Prod-Proof USRA side.jpg
    Prod-Proof USRA top.jpg
    Prod-Proof USRA front.jpg

    And the one that is more proofy

    Proof USRA side.jpg
    Proof USRA top.jpg.jpg
    Proof USRA front.jpg

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    That last one looks pretty rough, is the boiler warped or just not put on straight?? The first run of H5's had very narrow wheel gauge and would derail on diverging routes of turnouts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasputen View Post
    That last one looks pretty rough, is the boiler warped or just not put on straight?? The first run of H5's had very narrow wheel gauge and would derail on diverging routes of turnouts.
    I cannot tell -- I have not taken them apart yet to clean and lube and have not run them enough to see how they do on turnouts.

    I think it is quite interesting how the drive rods are just made out of shaped brass sheets...

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    I keep looking over the photos.
    they could be... this or that.
    the flat brass side rods are an indicator of pre-production models.
    ETA and the contored without coal coal load

    if you can find a photo of the models in a display booth that would help.
    however, without a box from the factory and paperwork indicating the details the models have or show,
    well, I can't easily see them commanding a premium over the normal production versions.

    sure is entertaining to consider, however they came to be.

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    FYI -- shared higher resolution images here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/KvWB8GobOBg1cGxq2

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    I went to the auction description to get more info, quite interesting:

    "Stout Auctions is honored to present the HO, On30, O & G gauge trains and Plasticville artwork collection from the estate of H. Lee Riley was employed by Bachmann Industries Inc. for 29 years and was vice president of product development. He was a distinguished member of the hobby industry for nearly 50 years and a longtime active member of NMRA. Lee was instrumental in popularizing On30 narrow gauge railroading and was a member the Narrow Gauge Hall of Fame. The first half of the auction will feature the H. Lee Riley collection, highlighted by his prototypes and original artwork for Plasticville by Bachmann. The prototypes, sample test shots and original artwork were acquired directly from Bachmann Industries Inc. by H. Lee Riley."

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    Wow, parts of Lee Riley's collection. What a find!

    Lee, I firmly believe, took Bachmann from its "junk" reputation to a much, much improved status in hobby, and of course was a driving factor -- maybe the driving factor -- behind bringing RTR On30 models to the market.

    His impact on the hobby was tremendous.

    He was also quite a conversationalist. I think I still have the impressions of the phone receiver on my ear from the day in 2002 when he called my office at MR and chatted for nearly two hours. Both my hands were numb. Jim Hediger, who knew Lee's propensity well, got a big chuckle out of that.

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    It is really interesting -- goes back to that legacy of our collections.

    I should have bid on more stuff (there was only a handful of n-scale stuff).

    Some of the HO stuff and even On30 and brass stuff sold for a song... for example:
    https://connect.invaluable.com/stout...us_E6B48CBBD0/
    https://connect.invaluable.com/stout...16_41A4B26A0A/
    https://connect.invaluable.com/stout...Eu_09949DF896/

    His estate did well on the Plasticville art (that often sold for over estimates even as trains sold for less).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Schmidt View Post
    He was also quite a conversationalist. I think I still have the impressions of the phone receiver on my ear from the day in 2002 when he called my office at MR and chatted for nearly two hours. Both my hands were numb. Jim Hediger, who knew Lee's propensity well, got a big chuckle out of that.
    That's funny, knowing Jim's tendency to talk...

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