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    Walthers calls their catalog a reference book, they quit calling it a catalog years ago. This is because they they really don't stock the items in the book. They are mainly geared to selling their own product lines, along with some popular items. If you look at how much stuff is back ordered on their site, it's pretty obvious. I think they make a killing selling their reference books to folks who don't know any better. The only thing they have going for them is their building kits and they may be pricing themselves out of the market on those. If I want something they actually have in stock, I'll go to my LHS and ask him to get it for me. I end up paying less and don't have to drive out of my way. Of course I live near Hiawatha Hobbies, who happen to have a great selection in N scale.
    They're a full service shop willing to mail things out also. I haven't been to Walthers in years, if I do go it would be to see what they have in the scratch and dent area for building kits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cpnsoo View Post
    Of course I live near Hiawatha Hobbies, who happen to have a great selection in N scale.
    They're a full service shop willing to mail things out also
    I have bought from Hiawatha twice , great service and they actually had in stock what their web page said . Im from Canada and shipping here was no problem . I would buy from them again with no hesitation .

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    Do we realy care if Walthers has bowed out of N scale?

    There are plenty of other creative people who get together and produce items we can realy appreciate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jhn_plsn View Post
    Do we realy care if Walthers has bowed out of N scale?

    There are plenty of other creative people who get together and produce items we can realy appreciate.
    I've never bought a Walthers kit from them, and the walthers kits I have were bought from someone on here, who probably bought them from their LHS (I don't have one of those in these parts (not one that carry's trains anyway) ).

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    I don't know, Paul. I find little reason to even buy an issue, let alone subscribe. There's nothing new in there, some nice pictures, mostly. It's good for the 80 yr old plus crowd who won't use computers. It's very thin, it's mostly ads, and the cost / benefit ratio is in the toidy.

    I loved MR back in the 70's and 80's. Of course, no internet. I learn more in 5 minutes on this forum than I do in a year's worth of MR's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by P-LineSoo View Post
    I loved MR back in the 70's and 80's. Of course, no internet. I learn more in 5 minutes on this forum than I do in a year's worth of MR's
    Oh, yeah, me too re: MR. But the marriage of the mag and video content -- where each is performing at its strongest point -- is really working for me.

    This combination of print and digital is very much akin to what a former associate editor and I were blue-skying about back in mid 2002. We were thinking in terms of downloadable products to complement the magazine. Video too. But it was general concept stuff. We both left, but the idea found legs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Schmidt View Post
    Oh, yeah, me too re: MR. But the marriage of the mag and video content -- where each is performing at its strongest point -- is really working for me.
    While I love reading MR , and I still have a subscription till end 2019 , I won't renew after that , the amount of pushing for the video subscription has gotten completely ridiculous, almost all of the articles in the magazine are omly half complete without the MRVP subscription . I don't like being pushed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Janbouli View Post
    I don't like being pushed.
    Yeah, I can see how that would get annoying. I get two to four marketing emails a day from KMC for all kinds of products and announcements. Annoying, really, and I'm thinking of emailing the company president to complain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cpnsoo View Post
    The only thing they have going for them is their building kits
    Other than their selection, they don't come close to the quality of other kits such as DPM/Woodlands, Laser Cut Kits etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wombat457 View Post
    Other than their selection, they don't come close to the quality of other kits such as DPM/Woodlands, Laser Cut Kits etc
    That's why I'm saying they're pricing themselves out. They've been taking old kits which had 2 -3 buildings and separating them to sell as individuals.

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    My biggest gripe with Walthers is their lack of modern era N structures. For example, I have wanted almost all of their most recent modern era structures. UPS store, UPS shipping hub, Modern shopping center, Modern Travel center. These are all fantastic kits that have been on the market for close to, if not over a year already. Both of my LHS's carry these kits and said that they cant keep them on the shelves for more than a day, so obviously the demand is there, so why not put them out in N scale? Out of curiosity I called Walthers and asked what the deal was and they said that they are taking requests and customer feedback to guage the demand of the newer structures in N scale, which I believe is 100% untrue. I mean, what modern era modeler wouldn't want these regardless of scale? In the mean time I have been giving my money to Summit, Kato, and CMR. I'm also pondering the possibility of recreating these HO buildings in N scale via 3D printing. Can't buy it? Make it!!!

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    I'd love a modern travel center. I need a Wawa on my layout, maybe two!
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    Quote Originally Posted by sohchx View Post
    My biggest gripe with Walthers is their lack of modern era N structures.
    Not to defend Walthers , but , the more modern a structure is , the smaller the group of potential buyers will get. Someone modeling the 2000's can have 1960's or earlier buildings on their layout , that sadly doesn't go the other way around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sohchx View Post
    I'm also pondering the possibility of recreating these HO buildings in N scale via 3D printing. Can't buy it? Make it!!!
    For years, I wanted to buy a 3D printer... Still haven't, but as I get back into the modeling hobby, I realize that I don't really care about the build space as much anymore as I care about the build resolution. I'm thinking an optical exposure resin based 3D printer would be an N-scaler's best friend... If companies like Walthers are diminishing N scale offerings to the point where it looks like they've practically given up on N scale, then i agree! Make it yourself! People kit bashed and scratch built structures for decades before. Nothing wrong with some modern tech to scratch build in a different way.

    I did recently skim over Walther's website... I was... whelmed. I just thought, meh. Not enough in N scale, and barely functional at that! I moved on and haven't visited the site since.

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    So to sound like one of those conspiracy theory wackos, anyone else think Walthers somehow orchestrated this whole Chinese factory shutdown right after selling their N-scale products to Atlas?! I say it's a legitimate plot to truly KILL N-SCALE! One fell swoop and a majority of N is up in smoke, I say Walthers is a puppet master!
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    I do find it suspicious that Walthers sold Atlas their N Scale tooling right before the plant closed (and the tooling may be inaccessible now...).
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    LOL!!! Good one! I think it's totally true!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpwisc View Post
    I do find it suspicious that Walthers sold Atlas their N Scale tooling right before the plant closed (and the tooling may be inaccessible now...).
    Hi,

    I work for Atlas and can assure you that the former Walthers tooling is in a safe spot, and you can expect to see new product announcements soon. I can't say much more than that, but keep an eye out!

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    As if Walthers has control over anything, come on folks. They are just a distributor, who may or may not stock N scale. They probably got out of Life like because they just don't know what to do in regards to promoting and bringing out new product.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EMDFan View Post
    Hi,

    I work for Atlas and can assure you that the former Walthers tooling is in a safe spot, and you can expect to see new product announcements soon. I can't say much more than that, but keep an eye out!
    Thank you for the reassuring news.
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