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    Default Rolling stock used on the Atlantic Coast Line with C628 Alco locomotive?

    What kind of rolling stock would be appropriate in a consist pulled by my C628 Alco diesel locomotive?

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    Well, SCL was in business from 1967-1983
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seaboa..._Line_Railroad

    The C628 were built from 1963-1968
    So pretty much anything from the late 50's to the late 80's.

    I would say you would be safe with pretty much anything from that time frame which would be the biggest majority of cars on the market today. With the exception of the truly modern cars or cars from the 40-50's (40' outside braced boxcars)

    A good way to get a quick feeling for the car types is to watch videos. Probably not a lot on the SCL, but I did find a few on Youtube.
    here are several.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seaboa..._Line_Railroad
    https://youtu.be/PUUQFp9EQMw
    https://youtu.be/v2FbCEaUfMw
    https://youtu.be/D01OjEDN2jg
    https://youtu.be/VrrhQCcjd-8
    https://youtu.be/biEgJAmKG8Y

    These are just a few, but if you watch close you can see what types of cars are in the consist.
    Also watch video of other railroads of the same time era. SCL videos could be kind of rare.
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    Quote Originally Posted by New2N View Post
    What kind of rolling stock would be appropriate in a consist pulled by my C628 Alco diesel locomotive?
    Where did the ACL use its Centuries did they roam the system or were they assigned to a specific division? There is a fantastic historical society covering the ACL-SAL-SCL that you should consider joining if you are serious about the prototype.

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    So a quick little google search on the ACL's C628's led me here: http://www.jacksonvilleterminal.com/...coast_line.htm

    Quoting the info on the Atlantic Coast Line Alcos,

    "ALCO Century
    ACL ordered Alco C-628s in 1963/64 for use on its western lines the former AB&C but were soon used system wide. Unit numbers; 2000-2010.
    In 1965 3 C-630s arrived numbers 2011-2013.
    All units went into SCL renumbered as;
    C-628s 2000-2010 to; SCL 2200-2210.
    C-630s 2011-2013 to; SCL 2211-2213.
    In 1977 all C-628s and C-630s were transferred to the L&N and retired between 1979-1981."

    The C628's were most likely found on mainline freights so almost any freight car from the 50's and early 60's would be appropriate. Don't forget a caboose on the end. I doubt any of them were used on locals but who knows? Of the 9 photos at rrpicturearchives(only 2 at FallenFlags and none on Railpictures not a lot on these) this is the only one showing at least part of a consist.
    http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/sho...spx?id=2384157 . There wasn't much on Youtube which wasn't a surprise given the time frame being discussed.
    You might try your local library or inter-library loan for some books on the ACL I'm sure there's got to be a couple out there. For more info it might be worth an email to the Atlantic Coast Line & Seaboard Air Line Railroads Historical Society Inc. The website is http://aclsal.org/index.html

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    N&W relegated their Centuries to yard service shoving loaded hoppers around Lambert Point, after their usefulness as general-service road engines was played out, if I recall correctly. But since I model 1971, they are (for me) still viable as general pool road engines, and I have a couple. My point, however, is that one can craft a similar story and suppose that your Centuries are hauling well past the 1969 demise of ALCo (their maker), and thus haul anything dating from the 1950s on. Freight cars tend to have a long life, but it should be noted that roof walks on boxcars were being phased out in the late 1960s, so the later your era, the less likely you'd be to see a roof walk behind a Century.

    One kind of train that always appealed to me is a big Great Lakes iron ore train, with hundreds of tiny ore jennies behind some massive traction-giant engines; I love the juxtaposition of size. A C-628 is a beast of an engine, and a couple of those at the head of a snake of rust-colored single-bay hoppers could be quite compelling. The N&W equivalent that I run would be long-hood-forward SD45s (and yes, Centuries) at the head of a bunch of 3-bay coal hoppers, which doesn't amount to the same difference in size between engine and car.

    About the only things I could think of that would be "incorrect" to run with a C-628 would be passenger cars, or non-American rolling stock, as I don't think they were ever exported. But as @epumph said, it's your railroad, and you could invent a story that explains how your scenic excursion train was only able to acquire a secondhand Century for its fleet, or how your Australian entrepreneur had some shipped over to run their down-under mine turns.

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    Just noticed this was just listed:

    $10 shipped.

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/LINES-SOUTH...4/192604198748


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    Quote Originally Posted by WP&P View Post
    Freight cars tend to have a long life, but it should be noted that roof walks on boxcars were being phased out in the late 1960s, so the later your era, the less likely you'd be to see a roof walk behind a Century.
    Running boards were banned on new freight cars being built w/o top hatches(and some other restrictions) being built in 1966 and on. The original date for equipment built prior to 1966 to have the running boards removed and brake wheels lowered, etc, from cars in interchange service was in 1974. But that date got pushed back to 1982(3? I've seen both dates listed) as there was a lot of equipment that wasn't modified by the 1974 date. So it was possible to still see box cars with running boards into the early 80's but it was getting rare. Somewhere in my book library I've a photo or 2 of this on Conrail in the mid to late 70's. I'm guessing modifying box cars wasn't a top priority for bankrupt railroads. Blueford shops has a time line resource on their web page http://www.bluford-shops.com/bluford_93_024.htm and is a good read over morning coffee or your morning drink of choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by railohio View Post
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    How does stating a fact kill any serious discussion on any model railroad forum? Rhetorical question by the way.
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