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    Default Fantasy doesn't mean cartoon, it's a state of fun

    One more thing to add.

    Fantasy is a term. Freelance sounds too boring. Too sterile
    and too old fashioned.

    Perhaps Fantasy will turn folks off thinking that stupid things
    will join with real neat detailed and weathered pieces.

    It doesn't have to be that way folks.

    Fantasy simply means you are not locking into a prototypical
    place in particular.

    Now, you might find Thomas the Tank engine taking a spin around
    a T-Trak layout at a show to please the children (and adults I might add)
    but at home you run only the best and those items that fit your era.

    My theme is an over all theme for my personal modular railway line.

    I will have topical modules that address different schenes or themes
    I want to convey. All for my pleasure and the pleasure of those who
    view my layout and modules.

    With our the miniature modules you can do one with a theme and set it
    on the shelf knowing full well you can run trains across it.
    Then you buid a few more of a different theme.

    Snow scenes, desert scenes, mountains and such all on different modules
    yet all can be locked together in a nice flow that says more to a viewer
    and perhaps to you then what a permanent layout will.

    Ever want to make a statement? Ever just want to see a neat snow scene
    but you modeled south Florida?

    I want flexibility in my layout. Heck my rolling stock certainly is flexible.

    And believe me, no one enjoys detail more than I. I got into N because of the detail. With N scale it seems you can have great detail that looks
    even more convincing then it does in HO. Anyone agree?

    I don't want to tick off the HO folks but heck they shouldn't be hanging around here anyway.

    I'm just kidding.

    HOer's are always welcome. Some of the best N scalers used to be HOers.

    Let's continue the discussion on fantasy railroads.

    Keep in mind fantasy football isn't stupid it's just like the war games or other fantasy stuff. I wouldn't say fantasy war games of the Civil War were off detail or inaccurate. In know they take great pains in staying true with history. Ours can too.

    Let's not let the other hobbys have all the fun!!!

    Ken
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    Default one more thing

    Sorry but I gotta add one more note to this discussion then I'll shut up.

    Our friend Tim Savaglio who needs to be on here posting, hint hint,
    has a great idea and it's all him.

    He wants to do milepost modeling. You take a ShapeMaster modules (little advertizment there) and layout and scenic as a place in history
    in the real world as it is or as it was.

    Then you run a train across this module and as it passes over the milepost
    you are seeing the scene or setting as it was. Then the train enters the
    TrainSIM on your laptop and you see the train traveling through miles of other areas on the computer as it was but you don't have room for it in your house.

    Then as the train enters the next small town or city it enters into the next module (ShapeMaster I hope) and you see (and so does your family and friends) all the detailed work you've done on the module that looks like or similar to the the area you wanted to MilePOST model.

    So, you model certain mile posts along the railway.

    NOW, that's NOT fantasy railroading but it's another cool way to benefit from modules.

    Again, Fantasy doesn't imply Toy Like or bright colors and Disney stuff
    necessarily it means Themes that are not from the real world however they may bear a resemblance to them but not particularly intentional.

    Better go,

    Ken
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    Default Re:Fantasy Railroads

    Hey,
    First,John W.,that is a beautiful bridge!!!!As for my RR,I have a couple of fantasy engines on it.I have 2 SD-80's in Erie Lackawanna,a SD-60 in EL,a SD-40 in EL,& a P-42 in NJT.It's all part of the funny of having your own RR. It's my RR,I'll do what I want!!!!!!!!!! :wink: Mike
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    Default Right way, Wrong way and the Railroad way

    Always remember folks........
    there's the:

    Right way, Wrong way and the Railroad way


    If the Railroad could hang on doing their way even
    if it was stupid and sent them into bankruptcy,
    why can't we!!!!


    Bottom line is have fun and enjoy good clean modeling.

    Again I say, if the railroads found creative ways to solve problems
    why can't we?

    Ken

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    Default Re:Fantasy Railroads

    Mike,
    Thanks, glad you liked the bridge, here is another shot of it;

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    Default Re:Fantasy Railroads

    John, that bridge is just fine!
    Your trains don't end up in the bottom of the canyon, do they?... so even if your safety factor in its design wasn't as big as some may have used, it does hold up and look the part... must be the unobtanium used in the structure :P
    Bryan
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    Default Bridge

    How about some basic instructions on that bridge and how
    you built it. I would love to put one of those together.

    Looks good.

    What are the dimensions, the type of track used and etc.

    Thanks

    Ken
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    Default Re:Fantasy Railroads

    Just not inclined to use the term fantasy for my railroad. Fantasy has implications that just don't fit what I do. Prototypical doesn't either. Proto-lance is not a word. So I am sticking with freelance.

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    Default fantasy term

    Todd,
    No problem.

    I understand.

    I suppose a less provacative word or term should be used.
    But it needs to be a new term not one that is already used in the
    train layout world.

    Freelance is too open a term for me but it does say it well.

    What Steve come up with is the concept not the term. The concept
    is to have fun with your model railroad and not get caught up in rivet
    counting and everything having to be perfectly prototypical.

    After all, no one's layout is perfect and nothing is untimately prototypical
    anyway. We all know that. Either something the manufacture does or
    something we don't do makes the track, train or layout not to scale or not
    as believable.

    Oh well, it's about having fun. Let's get on with it.

    Ken
    "The brave may not live forever, but the cautious never live at all"

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    Default Don't Worry be happy

    Don't worry be happy.

    We've had some good discussion on the General
    boards regarding "Fantasy Railroads". I'm thinking that the
    term "Topical" layout makes good sense. It's Topics
    we are talking about not primary colored Disney Toys.

    I like the term that Toolman came up with for his modular layout
    "Fantasy Railroading" and he calls his line the Hokie Pokie Railway Line.

    He's on a roll and enjoying himself.

    We should never take ourselves too seriously in this hobby. I've seen folks implode while doing it.

    I Know a fellow who is one of the best R/C scale plane builders in the
    U.S. get all mad and stomp his planes into the dust when they didn't fly
    the way he wanted. How much fun is that to destroy a $4,000.00 plane
    in front of other top notch pilots and modelers?

    If we can't have fun how can we ever convey to others the joy of model railroading and encourage them to get in.

    Moreover if we are a part of a club and lose our tempers or micromanage
    the club we end up pushing folks away.

    I suggest that we have fun, build small but simple and enjoy our hobby.

    Life's too short to be all wacked about a layout design.

    So, my thoughts tonight are to unwind, back away and look at the work
    you've done and just enjoy the items and accomplishments you have so far.

    Best to all,

    ShapeMaster
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    Default Re:Fantasy Railroads

    ...After all, no one's layout is perfect and nothing is untimately prototypical anyway. We all know that. Either something the manufacture does or something we don't do makes the track, train or layout not to scale or not as believable....

    Ken
    One of the reasons for my liking N gauge (apart from getting more track per sq') is the fact that you don't have to be as cognizant of the fine detail... a generic outline, wheel arrangement, and paint, will get you most of the way there... sure the ultra fine detail can be appreciated, but for a general "look" and to have fun it's not a necessity...
    Bryan
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    Default Re:Fantasy Railroads

    Founder, Owner, Operator, CEO and CFO of the Hokie Pokie Railway Line here. One thing for sure, I did spark conversation here and it does appear that everyone is having fun. Hey! We are all on Page 3 now with a lot of views and a lot of discussion.
    Regardless what anyone says, When I am through and a laughing all the way to the bank because some manufacture bought my Fantasy Railroad and Orion Films makes a multi-million featured movie of the Hokie Pokie, you will all wish that you jump complete in my fantasy RR instead of putting you left foot in and turn yourself around (he he).

    As Chief Financial Officer I will say that the Hokie Pokie Railway Line has made some major investments. We have just purchase a SW9/1200 locomotive, a 40ft and 50ft boxcars and a steel caboose. All are undecorated and we will be placing the Hokie Pokie Railway Line Logo Decal and lettering on them. Does anyone want to provide their input for Color of the base unit prior to me adding decals? Here is your chance to part of the paint scheme. You will say
    Steve O'Toole (aka Toolman)
    Owner, Operator, CEO, CFO
    Hokie Pokie Railway Line
    "We Deliver Freight & Passengers Point-to-Point or In Circles"

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    Default Re:Fantasy Railroads

    [quote="Toolman"] All are undecorated and we will be placing the Hokie Pokie Railway Line Logo Decal and lettering on them. Does anyone want to provide their input for Color of the base unit prior to me adding decals? Here is your chance to part of the paint scheme. You will say
    Joe/KC6NLX
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    Default Re:Fantasy Railroads

    Hey Joe!!! with B&O. I like your idea of the choc brown. You gave me another idea. I am going to take my newly purchased items and bring to to a custom rod paint shop. I will have them painted in such a way that the change color as they pass the viewer. I will allow that custom paint shop advertising as one of my sponsors.

    One good thing about America is the right of free speech. Nothing wrong with anyone trying to get his or her money back for helping the hobby along. Believe me, I have witness first hand the investment Ken has made tooling the Pods and the Modules. He ain't going to be buying a muli-million dollar home from this. I have personnally gone with Shape-Master items because you can not build a unit like he offers at the price he offers. No one can do it. Shape-Master, Inc. http://www.shape-master.com

    Joe - I am trying to get Todd to make this Fantasy section perminent because we can all dream what we want. No one mentioned my 1st attempt at my Logo. Ken helped me with that coming up with the woodsie look and the timber in the background. I think the choc color look would go great with that.

    I think my poster for Chantilly will include the names of all those who contributed to the looks of Hokie Pokie Railway Line
    Steve O'Toole (aka Toolman)
    Owner, Operator, CEO, CFO
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    "We Deliver Freight & Passengers Point-to-Point or In Circles"

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    Default blatant advertising

    joekc6nlx

    I sincerely hope my advertising on this web forum doesn't offend
    anyone.

    In my mind I wish more folks like Atlas, Kato, Life Like and others would come to a site like this and talk personally with other modelers.

    I am different in that I am a modeler in N scale who fell in love with N.

    Then I fell in love with miniature modules and wanted to bring a mass produced affordable unit to the market place that will help not only busy
    modelers like me (an experienced master modeler) but also others who
    are young and those who have never modeled railroads, train, scenery,
    etc.

    It was my contention that T-Trak was a great idea for a layout not only
    for clubs but also for your home layouts.
    The problem I saw with it was that far too man folks don't have the woodworking tools to build the wood module or the ability to do it with the repeat accuracy required.
    That's where our product line would meet the needs.

    I am in discussions now with Todd our administrator and the owner of this site to enter into a paying agreement for advertising on this site.
    Todd had mentioned that he was considering shutting down the forums and
    that there was cost of time and money involved with no revenue coming in.

    He didn't gripe about it just was honest. His intention was for this site to be the best resource on the net for N scale. He is well on his way to providing that for us. I want to help.

    So, in the effort to help defray his costs and to perhaps keep him interested in the work I am offering to do something tangible in the way of adverstising.

    Please dont be offfended by my references to our product lines.

    Thanks for your support (Bartels and James)


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    Default Re:Fantasy Railroads

    Ken,
    I know that I don't have a problem with you airing your enthusiazm for your new project/adventure, and documenting your progress here... 8)

    But if you're bashing us over the head with it on a daily basis in 12 months time, we might be gett'n a little browned off by then...
    Bryan
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    Default browned off, I like that can I use it?

    Browned off, I like that, can I use it?

    Sounds like an Eddie Murphy comment.

    As for bashing, I'll try real hard to not make you guys
    feel I'm prostituting myself or our products here.

    Thanks for mentioning it, I truly don't want to come
    off gratuitous.

    Take care,

    Ken
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    Default Re:Fantasy Railroads

    Fantasy = FUNtasy. As long as one gets enjoyment out of what their are doing and it doesn't harm any one, then have fun doing what you enjoy!
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    Default Re: blatant advertising

    Quote Originally Posted by "shapemaster"
    joekc6nlx

    I sincerely hope my advertising on this web forum doesn't offend
    anyone.


    Please dont be offfended by my references to our product lines.

    Thanks for your support (Bartels and James)


    Ken

    ShapeMaster
    My reference was with a smile and a wink. I'm certainly not offended by you promoting your products. You are providing a means to obtaining things that the vast majority of us modellers cannot make on our own without extensive and expensive equipment.
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    Default Re:Fantasy Railroads

    Ok Guys & Gals -- as of 3:30pm today - a bomb fell on the Warsteiner Warehouse & Transfer company. I will be vacating that lot and building the Hokie Pokie Corporate office. There are always good side to these stories and on this note, I will be be able to post more here and maybe finally after all the boasting -- get some photos on here.

    It was brought to my attention that a good airbrush artist could probably do a better job that a custom auto shop custom painting my railroad rolling stock. Any thoughts out there. I still like the chocolate idea. With a good painter it would be nice to see the a swirlas the Hokie Pokie Railroad goes by. Hokie Pokie Railway Line owes the track and the real estate; while the Hokie Pokie Railroad ownes the equipment.

    OH NO! :twisted: Could this be the end of the FUNtacy and FANTASY; Am I starting to sound like Corporate America.

    PS: Presidental Canidate Kerry wants to rent my Railroad to do Whistle Stops across Hokie Pokie Country campaigning. On the other hand Bush wants to use it for on one way ticket to Mexico.

    Tune in this weekend when the recking ball clears out the Warsteiner Warehouse and Transfer Company. Instead of the HPRL Corporate Office we may be constucting the M. Jackson Sleepover Hotel or the Hokie Pokie Celebrity Penitentiary. Won't mention any convictions lately or future guests as we could get closed down. Heck, with the way it is going, I will need a train to haul them all in. (Did you all get the witticism) :wink:

    This is a very, very busy thread here. Tune in.
    Steve O'Toole (aka Toolman)
    Owner, Operator, CEO, CFO
    Hokie Pokie Railway Line
    "We Deliver Freight & Passengers Point-to-Point or In Circles"

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