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soupac
9th Apr 2010, 11:32 PM
I've been struggling way too long trying to figure out how to obtain easy access to the bottom side of my benchwork. You know, where you spend hours on end working on your layout and no one will ever notice. I thought I had all this stuff figured out, but back when I came to the conclusion that my mainline would soon be in the floor joists, I started all over again. Had to reverse design from the joists back down. Left the main benchwork at a height that I could no longer just sit on a roller stool and just slide under. Now. sitting on the floor puts my head into the work area and reduces sight to just 2D. Laying on the floor makes the access area unreachable. Now I remember an auto mechanic's creeper. Still too low. Micro-Mark had one on sale but I"m a cheapskate (I wasn't sure it would support my formidable torso) and I found a piece of L-girder laying around and a ripped-out 2 x 4 and decided to render my spray-booth immobile; Soooo, I've decided to make my own creeper made to fit my needs...

http://www.trainboard.com/railimages/data/912/IMG_00451.JPG

http://www.trainboard.com/railimages/data/912/IMG_00473.JPG

http://www.trainboard.com/railimages/data/912/IMG_00445.JPG

Just need to cover the top with a piece of plywood and I'm good to go!

BUT WAIT!!!

If I act right now, I can cut the top plywood piece and use 1 end of it to act as a "tilt-up" back for other layout areas that are higher up. Not sure I know how to go about this. So far the creeper is very light. Would like to keep it that way. Any ideas people?

Bigsparky65
10th Apr 2010, 09:09 AM
That is a nice idea.:cool:


Sparky(Jeff)

Jazzbass01
10th Apr 2010, 10:13 AM
That IS a nice idea!
I'm afraid it wouldn't work for me, I'd find a way to fall off or get stuck or somehow create chaos.. :D

bigford
10th Apr 2010, 11:20 AM
`cut the plywwod into two peices one about where your butt will
be when you lay down on the creeper. then use two metal gate hinges.
to attach the back support.. i would use a 2X4 in the middle of the two rails
for the hing support. now with one more hinge attach a 2X4 to the middle
of the back support that will angle your back into a good position
and reach the floor..

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q162/bigfordf550/creeper.jpg

quietstorm
10th Apr 2010, 11:30 AM
whats the weight limit. im a big guy? i dont look as heavy as I truly am so people say oh you will be fine and then snap! lol im 300lbs but losing weight. If it could hold 320 easily, id definately consider this a project for me!

bigford
10th Apr 2010, 11:34 AM
to support your 300lbs you would want to block the 2X4's
so that the rails are sitting ontop of a 2X4 and along side of
a 2X4

Allegheny Pappy
10th Apr 2010, 01:41 PM
i was 480 but am down to 380 but still wouldn't trust anything less than an old deep-mining coal car! :eek:

epumph
10th Apr 2010, 08:28 PM
mine pivots! see my album for some pix!
Here's the link:
http://www.nscale.net/forums/album.php?albumid=131&pictureid=1943 (http://www.nscale.net/forums/album.php?albumid=131&pictureid=1943)

http://www.nscale.net/forums/album.php?albumid=131&pictureid=1939

Diggr
11th Apr 2010, 05:55 AM
Nice idea - a creeper on stilts! Overall you've got a workable idea. I would suggest you consider a couple of modifications.

Looking at the creeper in a side elevation, the joint between the L-girder and the 2x4 upright is kind of small, even if glued and screwed. You might want to consider adding some corner bracing to help deal with racking loads.

You also might want to consider adding a plywood facia to at least half of each end plate at the bottom, again to handle racking loads.

And from the pictures it's tough to tell but I would think you should have full swiveling casters on all four corners.

Just a few thoughts.

soupac
20th Apr 2010, 09:16 PM
Nice idea - a creeper on stilts! Overall you've got a workable idea. I would suggest you consider a couple of modifications.

Looking at the creeper in a side elevation, the joint between the L-girder and the 2x4 upright is kind of small, even if glued and screwed. You might want to consider adding some corner bracing to help deal with racking loads.

You also might want to consider adding a plywood facia to at least half of each end plate at the bottom, again to handle racking loads.

And from the pictures it's tough to tell but I would think you should have full swiveling casters on all four corners.

Just a few thoughts.

I do have corner braces in the plans, but not on yet. I've decided to put real creeper casters all they way around. These weren't easy to come by. I put two temporary pieces of plywood over the top and it seems to support fine. When I get screws in the butt support area of the top it will help alot. Then the corner braces and this thing is going to work fine. I hope!

fire5506
3rd Sep 2010, 11:37 PM
A the club I belong to I brought an old office chair in and at it lowest height leaning back in it I am very comfortable working under the layout. It is easy to get into, out of and roll around on.

gary60s
14th Oct 2010, 12:09 PM
A slightly different approach is to angle the back support. The butt stop is also angled to keep your butt from dragging...lol

Jazzbass01
14th Oct 2010, 12:20 PM
Nice build!!

Ahemmm... That thing is going to need bigger wheels, heavier duty frame and a much larger butt stop for me to use.. Oh, are cup holders optional?

YellowBeard
14th Oct 2010, 02:02 PM
JB, I think by the way you describe the mods you'd need, that if you and I were in the same room together we'd be needing a heavy duty floor with supports!

Love the angled creep, but I too need the big boy version with super casters and wide load sticker.

~Sean

MooseID
14th Oct 2010, 02:14 PM
Jeepers-Creepers, Batman, that looks cool.

But it needs a sidecar to hold tools and coffee cups and beer cans and soldering iron and wire and solder and screws and glue and parts and turnout motors and turnout linkage and CD player and mood lighting and all that other stuff.