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DrifterNL
28th May 2010, 01:42 PM
N-Scale Freight Car / Passenger Car / Caboose Trucks:
Micro Trains (http://www.micro-trains.com/)-> Many Different Styles (http://www.micro-trains.com/trucks_n.php)
BLMA (http://www.blmamodels.com/cgi-bin/webstore/shop.cgi?c=start.htm&t=main.index.htm&storeid=1) -> 70 Ton (http://www.blmamodels.com/cgi-bin/webstore/shop.cgi?ud=BQUAAw8JAwMDBxQUEBEcHA4CAg8DAAUECQkTEQ AA&t=main.red.htm&storeid=1&cols=1&categories=02002-00024&&c=detail.red.htm&t=main.red.htm&itemid=9025) / 100 Ton (http://www.blmamodels.com/cgi-bin/webstore/shop.cgi?ud=BQUAAw8JAwMDBxQUEBEcHA4CAg8DAAUECQkTEQ AA&t=main.red.htm&storeid=1&cols=1&categories=02002-00024&&c=detail.red.htm&t=main.red.htm&itemid=9005) (Great for lowering ride height without modifying bolsters)
Atlas (http://www.atlasrr.com/) -> Different Styles (https://secure.atlasrr.com/mod1/items.asp?Cc=N60&iTpStatus=0&Tp=&Bc=)(The Atlas 100 Ton truck also lowers ride height without modifying bolsters)
Intermountain Railway Co. (http://www.imrcmodels.com/index.html) -> A Few (http://www.imrcmodels.com/n/nacc.htm)
KATO (http://www.katousa.com/) -> A Few (http://www.katousa.com/parts-catalog/information.html)(Select a freight car under "N-Scale Products" to look up trucks)
RAPIDO TRAINS INC. (http://www.rapidotrains.com/) -> A Few (http://www.rapidotrains.com/trucks_n.html)
American Limited Models (http://www.americanlimitedmodels.com/) -> A Few (http://www.americanlimitedmodels.com/core_kits.htm)


Freight Car Trucks Friction Bearing:
Banned from interchange service (http://www.trainorders.com/discussion/read.php?3,434667) in:
01-01-1991 for cars carrying hazardous materials.
01-01-1994 for cars carrying non-hazardous materials.
01-01-1995 for cars with trucks that were converted from friction to roller bearing side frames (Hot Box detectors could not detect them if / when they overheated).

Freight Cars & Truck Sizes, What Size To Use?
I found a post on The Railwire (http://www.therailwire.net/forum/index.php) about 70 Ton and 100 Ton trucks and how to look up which truck to use under your rolling stock, read reply #12 (http://therailwire.net/forum/index.php/topic,19312.msg199337.html#msg199337)
Post from "Hyperion" on The Railwire:

The rating of a truck refers to the capacity of the load the car is allowed to carry, and it is actually an estimate at best.Today, a "100T" truck can carry a 286,000lb total load inclusive of the car weight (i.e. gross rail weight) (263K prior to, I believe, 1994). A "70T" truck car carry a 220,000lb total weight inclusive of the car.So rather than looking at the capacity, look at the total gross weight (add light/tare weight to the capacity) and see if its' less than 220K or 286K, that will determine the truck size used.

Freight Car Trucks and Wheel Diameters:
<=50 Ton Trucks ride on 28" Wheels
70 Ton Trucks ride on 33" Wheels
100 Ton Trucks ride on 36" Wheels
125 Ton Trucks ride on 38" Wheels

N-Scale Wheel Diameter Conversions:
.175" (4,45mm) = 28" Wheels
.188" (4,76mm) = 30" Wheels
.206" (5,24mm) = 33" Wheels
.225" (5,72mm) = 36" Wheels
.238" (6,03mm) = 38" Wheels

N-Scale (Metal) Wheel Sets:
FVM (http://www.foxvalleymodels.com/) -> Metal Wheel Sets (http://www.foxvalleymodels.com/metalwheels.html)Axle Lengths:
.540" (1,372cm) -> Micro Trains & Athearn trucks
.553" (1,405cm) -> Intermountain trucks & Atlas trucks (plastic wheels)
.563" (1,430cm) -> Con-Cor & Bachmann & old Atlas trucks (metal wheels)
Atlas (http://www.atlasrr.com/) -> (Metal) Wheel Sets (https://secure.atlasrr.com/mod1/items.asp?Cc=N60&iTpStatus=0&Tp=&Bc=)
NorthWest Short Line (http://www.nwsl.com/)-> Metal Wheel Sets (http://www.nwsl.com/wheelsets/n-scale-precision-wheelsets)
Intermountain Railway Co. (http://www.imrcmodels.com/index2.html) -> (Metal) Wheel Sets (http://www.imrcmodels.com/n/nacc.htm)
Logic Rail Technologies (http://www.logicrailtech.com/) -> Detectable Metal Wheel Sets (http://www.logicrailtech.com/dws.htm) (Detectable Metal Wheel Sets used for train detection, signaling etc.)
KATO (http://www.katousa.com/) -> Metal Wheel Sets (http://search.cartserver.com/search/search.cgi?cartid=s-1078&keywords=GENERAL&maxhits=100&go=List+Parts&bool=AND&bool=AND)

N-Scale Odd Ball Axle Length:
Atlas .568" (1,444cm) used under the 20,700 gal tank car. (http://forum.atlasrr.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=60129)

N-Scale Pizza Cutters:
Have a look at MooseID's post "What are 'Pizza Cutters' (http://www.nscale.net/forums/showthread.php?16270-What-are-Pizza-Cutters)".


N-Scale Knuckle Coupler Names:
Additional Information (http://www.nscaledivision.com/information_on_couplers.htm)
Micro Trains (http://www.micro-trains.com/)--> Magne-Matic (http://www.micro-trains.com/ConversionsN.php)
Athearn (http://www.athearn.com/) -------> McHenry (http://search.horizonhobby.com/index.jsp?sid=12880C7FB80C&N=695) (Info: McHenry Couplers (http://www.mchenrycouplers.com/) and Athearn are members of Horizon Hobby (http://www.horizonhobby.com/))
KATO (http://www.katousa.com/) --------> Semi Automatic (http://www.katousa.com/parts-catalog/information.html) / Kinematic (used on the “Morning Daylight”) (http://www.katousa.com/N/Daylight/pictures.html)
Atlas (http://www.atlasrr.com/) ----------> Accumate (https://secure.atlasrr.com/mod1/items.asp?Cc=N60&iTpStatus=0&Tp=&Bc=) (Info: Couplers are manufactured by Atlas under license from AccuRail, Inc (http://www.accurail.com/accurail/index.htm).)
Bachmann (http://www.bachmanntrains.com/home-usa/) -----> Dummy knuckle coupler (http://www.bachmanntrains.com/home-usa/products.php?act=viewCat&catId=138)

Older, Other, Discontinued:
Red Caboose (http://www.red-caboose.com/cgi-bin/e_catalog/catalog.cgi) -> Unimate (http://www.nscaledivision.com/information_on_couplers.htm)
Intermountain Railway Co. (http://www.imrcmodels.com/index.html) -> ?? (http://www.imrcmodels.com/n/nacc.htm)
The Rapido Coupler (http://www.nscaledivision.com/information_on_couplers.htm)

(N-Scale) Knuckle Coupler Height(s):
1:1 Scale Knuckle Coupler Heights (top of rail to middle of coupler)
Source (http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/4059192/description.html)
Empty cars -> min 32 1/2" max 34 1/2"
Loaded cars-> min 31 1/2" max 33 1/2"
N-scale (x/160)
Empty cars -> min 0.203" max 0.216" (5,2mm / 5,5mm)
Loaded cars-> min 0.197" max 0.209" (5,0mm / 5,3mm)
N-Scale Standard Knuckle Coupler Height (top of rail to middle of coupler)
0.216" (5,5mm) which is the same as the max height for an empty car.

*See a error or have something to add? let me know (post)!*

dcswift
28th May 2010, 11:58 PM
Should this post be moved over to the tutorial section?

It is an incredible wealth of information.

BryanC (RIP)
29th May 2010, 08:57 AM
Should this post be moved over to the tutorial section?

It is an incredible wealth of information.Yes, that makes sense! It has been moved.

DrifterNL
30th May 2010, 04:53 PM
I cleaned up / rearranged / added info / corrected and updated a few links in the first post. :coffee:
All the Google links are now gone too. :)
Enjoy!


Should this post be moved over to the tutorial section?
It is an incredible wealth of information.

Yes, that makes sense! It has been moved.

Thanks guys!

Newbie51
17th Aug 2010, 12:30 AM
I wonder if there would be any interest in my building 1 Excel spreadsheet with all of the Coupler Conversion data on it in one place for MT couplers? You would then be able to search from just one Excel spreadsheet for the proper conversion. Of Course I would check with MT first to make sure they didn't have any complaints listing their stock data. I'm sure they would not because it would just help sell their products.

Just an idea I already have all of MT's spreadsheets just need to build some additional tabs and some cutting and pasting.

Pete

MetroRedLn
16th Oct 2010, 02:57 AM
More:
N-Scale (Metal) Wheel Sets:

ExactRail (http://www.exactrail.com/index.php/) -> 33" Brass Wheelsets (http://www.exactrail.com/index.php/products/33-inch-brass-brass.html) (*Fits Athearn & Micro Trains?)

*Axle length not yet known

I heard they are .539"

DrifterNL
25th Jan 2011, 12:16 PM
More:
N-Scale Freight Car / Passenger Car / Caboose Trucks:
WHEELS OF TIME (http://www.wheelsotime.com/) -> 6 Wheel Heavyweight Drop-Equalizer Passenger Truck (http://www.wheelsotime.com/accessories)

Correction:
Freight Car Trucks and Wheelset Diameters:
50 Ton Trucks ride on 33" Wheelsets <-*corrected*
70 Ton Trucks ride on 33" Wheelsets
100 Ton Trucks ride on 36" Wheelsets
125 Ton Trucks ride on 38" Wheelsets

NOTE: Freight Car Trucks and Wheelset Diameters are meant as a rule of thumb, there can be variations to this in the 1:1 scale world thus also in the 1:160 scale world.

More:
N-Scale (Metal) Wheelsets:
Micro Trains (http://www.micro-trains.com/) -> Wheelsets (http://www.micro-trains.com/pl-Parts.php)
ExactRail (http://www.exactrail.com/) -> 33" (http://www.exactrail.com/33-inch-brass-brass) and 36" (http://www.exactrail.com/36-inch-brass-brass) Brass Wheelsets (Axle length is .538" (1,37 cm))
BLMA (http://www.blmamodels.com/cgi-bin/webstore/shop.cgi?c=start.htm&t=main.index.htm&storeid=1) -> 33" (http://www.blmamodels.com/cgi-bin/webstore/shop.cgi?ud=BgYCBw4IAQwDBxQUEBEcHA4FAAMJBgQECQkTEQ AA&t=main.red.htm&storeid=1&cols=1&categories=02002-00024&&c=detail.red.htm&t=main.red.htm&itemid=9810) and 36" (http://www.blmamodels.com/cgi-bin/webstore/shop.cgi?ud=BgYCBw4IAQwDBxQUEBEcHA4FAAMJBgQECQkTEQ AA&t=main.red.htm&storeid=1&cols=1&categories=02002-00024&&c=detail.red.htm&t=main.red.htm&itemid=9815) Metal Wheelsets (Fits BLMA & Micro Trains trucks)

More:
N-Scale Knuckle Coupler Names:
Con-Cor (http://www.con-cor.com/) -> Rigid Jaw Coupler (http://www.con-cor.com/CouplerConversions.html)
Bachmann (http://www.bachmanntrains.com/home-usa/index.php) -> E-Z Mate Mark II Coupler (http://www.bachmanntrains.com/home-usa/board/index.php/topic,12735.0.html)

*I did a little clean up, big thanks to BryanC!*

DrifterNL
10th Mar 2011, 11:45 AM
More:
N-Scale Freight car / Passenger car / Caboose Trucks:
BLMA (http://www.blmamodels.com/cgi-bin/webstore/shop.cgi?c=start.htm&t=main.index.htm&storeid=1) -> 70 Ton Friction Bearing Trucks (http://www.blmamodels.com/cgi-bin/webstore/shop.cgi?ud=CQEGBQ4ODw0DBxQUEBEcHAUGBQQCAAYECQkTEQ AA&t=main.red.htm&storeid=1&cols=1&categories=02002-00024&&c=detail.red.htm&t=main.red.htm&itemid=9045) (New Product / Great for lowering ride height without modifying bolsters)

DrifterNL
16th Mar 2011, 02:44 PM
More:
N-Scale (Metal) Wheelsets:
FVM (http://www.foxvalleymodels.com/) Is now offering their .540 (1,372cm) 33" Wheelset (http://www.foxvalleymodels.com/metalwheels.html) in Wide Tread version.

Eliphaz
19th Mar 2011, 01:41 PM
looking to replace some plastic wheelsets that are .595".
Are there any metal wheelsets availble that long?

DrifterNL
19th Mar 2011, 06:20 PM
looking to replace some plastic wheelsets that are .595".
Are there any metal wheelsets availble that long?

Are you sure about the axle length? :surprised:
In your original post you wrote about "American Limited Core Kits" and according to the web site http://americanlimitedmodels.com/?page_id=587 they use Intermountain 36" wheelsets which should be around .553".

Eliphaz
19th Mar 2011, 06:59 PM
yeah, I figured that out alright, two different projects.

didnt want to delete the post altogether, so I thought Id ask about the old Arnold passenger cars. I have a bunch of the RPOs which actually look quite decent.

DrifterNL
22nd Mar 2011, 10:40 AM
I had a look around but without success.
One thing you could think about is changing the trucks if you can find the appropriate truck.

DrifterNL
16th Apr 2011, 07:10 PM
Just read that Athearn will be announcing their metal wheelsets soon....

TwinDad
29th Jul 2011, 12:09 PM
Q about this... how much tolerance is there around these axle lengths?

I've been measuring some of my cars for replacement, and i seem to be falling in the middle.

Two cars (call them A & B) measured .548-.550
Two cars (C & D) measured .560
One car (E) measured .565

So I go look at FVM and they have 0.540, 0.553 and 0.563 wheels.

I'm supposing the .563 FVMs would do for cars C, D, and E.

But I'm unsure whether to go 0.540 (smaller and looser) or 0.553 (longer/tighter) for A & B.

I guess I could just buy a package of all 3 sizes and just try them on for fit, but if anyone has some guidance, I'd be much obliged.

FTR:

A = Rivarossi diner
B = Atlas 40' boxcar (old, pizza cutter / Rapido trucks)
C = LifeLike 50' boxcar (pizza cutter / Rapido trucks)
D = Bachmann caboose (metal p.c. wheels)
E = Model Power coach

Eliphaz
29th Jul 2011, 12:36 PM
rule of thumb when compromising, loose is better than tight.

TwinDad
29th Jul 2011, 12:39 PM
rule of thumb when compromising, loose is better than tight.

Good rule, but it's not "loose" I'm worried about. It's "too loose".

I suppose I could measure the space between the truck sideframes...

Eliphaz
29th Jul 2011, 06:07 PM
too loose means it falls out. trial and error is the best method.

you also have to measure the depth of the holes, or the distance between the bottoms of the opposite holes.

Michael Whiteman
30th Jul 2011, 02:15 AM
As you know TD, all I run are M/T trucks and FVM wheels. I have experienced the .540 axles to run + or - .003 Just a reminder to those looking to upgrade thier wheel sets. First roll them on the table to see if the wheel "wobbles". I find that on an average about 4% in the package do. This happens when the wheel is not seated in the jig properly when the axle is pressed in. The next thing you want to check with an OHM meter or other device, is that the wheels are truely insulated. I have heard that once in a great while a splinter of steel will bridge the gap between the axle and the insulated wheel. Believe me, you don't want to go hunting for a short on your layout if you knew this was the problem. Lastly check the wheel spacing with your NMRA guage. I have only found a couple of mine to be off. Not necessary, but you might want to check the overall length to make sure that a wheel for a different brand didn't fall into your package. Rather unlikely. Now back to the original question. I would rather have the axles too tight, because they seem to fall out of the trucks if they're too loose. The extra friction also helps dampen the "slinky" effect. Don't be affraid to bend the side frames on the trucks in with your fingers. This will tighten up loose fitting wheels.

DrifterNL
22nd Nov 2011, 05:59 PM
More:
N-Scale (Metal) Wheelsets:

(Announced Nov. 2011)
Athearn (http://www.athearn.com/Default.aspx) -> 33" (http://www.athearn.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdID=ATH90675) and 36" (http://www.athearn.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdID=ATH90676) Metal Wheelsets (axle length is .5445" (1,38 cm))

ThirdCoastRail
22nd Nov 2011, 07:16 PM
Thank for the update Drifter, we'll have to compare these to the other wheelsets already on the market...will they more prototypical like FVM's, or will they me more "doesn't matter what they look like long as they're metal" like Atlas. One would think that since this has been talked about since April, and they aren't due out until July 2012 they'd better be good. I mean, 7-8 months seems like an awfully long time to produce a wheel...especially if they've been working on it since April. I would think they could do a whole new freight car with metal wheels in that time...

DrifterNL
22nd Nov 2011, 07:42 PM
....we'll have to compare these to the other wheelsets already on the market...will they more prototypical like FVM's, or will they me more "doesn't matter what they look like long as they're metal" like Atlas...

Best I could do with the picture from Athearn:

ThirdCoastRail
22nd Nov 2011, 08:35 PM
Hm, from what I can tell they look rather similar to FVMs...better than Atlas at least. Package of 8 for $8...so $4 per car, and that's MSRP. FVM has theirs 12 for $9 or $3 per car... Didn't see any bulk packs listed on Athearn's website...but even still if you have quite a few freight cars you want to convert, that $1 per car difference can add up quick...

DrifterNL
24th Nov 2011, 06:21 PM
More / Updated Link:
N-Scale Freight Car / Passenger Car / Caboose Trucks:
Intermountain Railway Co. (http://www.intermountain-railway.com/) -> A Few (http://www.intermountain-railway.com/n/nacc.htm)
WHEELS OF TIME (http://www.wheelsotime.com/) -> 6 Wheel Heavyweight Drop-Equalizer Passenger Truck (http://www.wheelsotime.com/accessories)
BLMA (http://www.blmamodels.com/cgi-bin/webstore/shop.cgi?c=start.htm&t=main.index.htm&storeid=1) -> 70 Ton Friction Bearing Trucks (http://www.blmamodels.com/cgi-bin/webstore/shop.cgi?ud=CQEGBQ4ODw0DBxQUEBEcHAUGBQQCAAYECQkTEQ AA&t=main.red.htm&storeid=1&cols=1&categories=02002-00024&&c=detail.red.htm&t=main.red.htm&itemid=9045) (Great for lowering ride height without modifying bolsters)

Correction:
Freight Car Trucks and Wheelset Diameters:
50 Ton Trucks ride on 33" Wheelsets <-*corrected*
70 Ton Trucks ride on 33" Wheelsets
100 Ton Trucks ride on 36" Wheelsets
125 Ton Trucks ride on 38" Wheelsets

NOTE: Freight Car Trucks and Wheelset Diameters are meant as a rule of thumb, there can be variations to this in the 1:1 scale world thus also in the 1:160 scale world.

More / Corrected / Updated links:
N-Scale (Metal) Wheelsets:
FVM (http://www.foxvalleymodels.com/) -> Metal Wheelsets (http://www.foxvalleymodels.com/metalwheels.html) Axle Lengths:
.540" (13.72 mm) -> Micro Trains & Athearn Trucks
.553" (14.05 mm) -> Intermountain & Atlas(recent) Trucks
.563" (14.30 mm) -> Con-Cor & Bachmann & Atlas(old) Trucks
Note: The .540" is also available with a Wide Tread 33" Wheelset.
Intermountain Railway Co. (http://www.intermountain-railway.com/) -> (Metal) Wheelsets
(http://www.intermountain-railway.com/n/nacc.htm)NorthWest Short Line (http://www.nwsl.com/Home_Page.html) -> Metal Wheelsets (http://www.nwsl.com/NWSL_Online_Catalog.html)
Micro Trains (http://www.micro-trains.com/) -> Wheelsets (http://www.micro-trains.com/pl-Parts.php)
BLMA (http://www.blmamodels.com/cgi-bin/webstore/shop.cgi?c=start.htm&t=main.index.htm&storeid=1) -----> 33" (http://www.blmamodels.com/cgi-bin/webstore/shop.cgi?ud=BgYCBw4IAQwDBxQUEBEcHA4FAAMJBgQECQkTEQ AA&t=main.red.htm&storeid=1&cols=1&categories=02002-00024&&c=detail.red.htm&t=main.red.htm&itemid=9810) and 36" (http://www.blmamodels.com/cgi-bin/webstore/shop.cgi?ud=BgYCBw4IAQwDBxQUEBEcHA4FAAMJBgQECQkTEQ AA&t=main.red.htm&storeid=1&cols=1&categories=02002-00024&&c=detail.red.htm&t=main.red.htm&itemid=9815) Metal Wheelsets (Axle length is .537" (13.64 mm))
ExactRail (http://www.exactrail.com/) -> 33" (http://www.exactrail.com/33-inch-brass-brass) and 36" (http://www.exactrail.com/36-inch-brass-brass) Metal Wheelsets (Axle length is .538" (13.67 mm))
Athearn (http://www.athearn.com/Default.aspx) --> 33" (http://www.athearn.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdID=ATH90675) and 36" (http://www.athearn.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdID=ATH90676) Metal Wheelsets (Axle length is .5445" (13.83 mm))

More:
N-Scale Knuckle Coupler Names:
Con-Cor (http://www.con-cor.com/) -> Rigid Jaw Coupler (http://www.con-cor.com/CouplerConversions.html)
Bachmann (http://www.bachmanntrains.com/home-usa/index.php) -> E-Z Mate Mark II Coupler (http://www.bachmanntrains.com/home-usa/board/index.php/topic,12735.0.html)

DrifterNL
15th Mar 2012, 03:06 AM
BLMA has redesigned their 33" and 36" wheelsets.

From the BLMA website:

It’s no secret we engineer products with fine-scale details. In fact, that
commitment puts us somewhere between accuracy hounds and, well,…nutty train
folk! Label us as you may, our goal is always on quality, accuracy and
reliability.

Our fine-scale, N Scale metal wheels have made their way
onto presumably tens of thousands of layouts around the world. Through this
operation, we’ve noted that due to their slender profile and minimal flange
depth, our 33” and 36” N scale wheels have not always tracked perfectly on older
and ‘rugged’ track. With that feedback, we went back to the drawing board…


Starting with our next shipments in 2012, BLMA rolling stock will
feature an improved wheel design featuring slightly a deeper flange and slightly
increased tread width. Both changes are minor and will not affect the wheels
visual appearance, but our hope is to offer a great-looking, 100% reliable wheel
for N Scale. It's safe to say that when you speak - we listen!

DrifterNL
16th May 2012, 03:55 PM
More:
N-Scale Knuckle Coupler Names:
NZT Products (http://www.nztproducts.com/) -> ProtoMate (http://nztproducts.blogspot.com/2012/05/big-news-from-denver.html) (coming 2014)

http://www.nscale.net/forums/showthread.php?25816-NZT-Announces-Totally-New-Coupler-for-N-Scale-quot-ProtoMate-quot

DrifterNL
27th Jul 2012, 01:39 PM
Just in...
ExactRail will be introducing their new metal wheelsets (33" & 36") soon -> http://www.exactrail.com/announcements/07-27-2012?utm_source=exactrail&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=eremail07272012

DrifterNL
30th Oct 2012, 11:36 AM
More:
N-Scale Freight Car / Passenger Car / Caboose Trucks:
N scale and prototype information on all types of trucks with pictures -> http://www.visi.com/~spookshow/trucks/trucks.php

DrifterNL
2nd Jan 2013, 12:31 PM
More:
N-Scale Freight Car / Passenger Car / Caboose Trucks:
N scale and prototype information on all types of trucks with pictures -> http://www.spookshow.net/trucks/trucks.php

DrifterNL
1st Mar 2013, 04:33 PM
Micro Trains Civil War Era Rigid Wood Beam Trucks and Link & Pin Style Couplers -> http://www.micro-trains.com/nr-1303_CWtrucks.php

MetroRedLn
1st Mar 2013, 06:20 PM
I've discovered the ONLY metal wheels that will fit perfectly into the Deluxe Innovations Twin Stack 5-unit well car set are Intermountain (standard, not the "For Mictro Trains" variety) metal wheelsets. Regular MT-sized axles will work on the other DI cars though.

themikepeng
11th Jul 2013, 01:58 AM
Are MT's "standard" (not low profile) qualified for code 55?

DrifterNL
11th Dec 2013, 05:08 PM
(plain text version, work in progress (compiling data and fixing links)

N-Scale Freight Car / Passenger Car / Caboose Trucks:
Info on trucks -> http://www.spookshow.net/trucks/trucks.php
Micro Trains -> Many Different Styles
BLMA -> 70 Ton / 100 Ton (Great for lowering ride height without modifying bolsters)
BLMA -> 70 Ton Friction Bearing Trucks (New Product / Great for lowering ride height without modifying bolsters)
Atlas -> Different Styles (The Atlas 100 Ton truck also lowers ride height without modifying bolsters)
Intermountain Railway Co. -> A Few
KATO -> A Few (Select a freight car under "N-Scale Products" to look up trucks)
RAPIDO TRAINS INC. -> 41-BNO-11 / 41-N-11
WHEELS OF TIME -> 6 Wheel Heavyweight Drop-Equalizer Passenger Truck

Freight Car Trucks Friction Bearing:
Banned from interchange service in:
01-01-1991 for cars carrying hazardous materials.
01-01-1994 for cars carrying non-hazardous materials.
01-01-1995 for cars with trucks that were converted from friction to roller bearing side frames (Hot Box detectors could not detect them if / when they overheated).
Freight Cars & Truck Sizes, What Size To Use?
I found a post on The Railwire about 70 Ton and 100 Ton trucks and how to look up which truck to use under your rolling stock, read reply #12 -> http://therailwire.net/forum/index.php/topic,19312.msg199337.html#msg199337
Post from "Hyperion" on The Railwire:
The rating of a truck refers to the capacity of the load the car is allowed to carry, and it is actually an estimate at best.Today, a "100T" truck can carry a 286,000lb total load inclusive of the car weight (i.e. gross rail weight) (263K prior to, I believe, 1994). A "70T" truck car carry a 220,000lb total weight inclusive of the car.So rather than looking at the capacity, look at the total gross weight (add light/tare weight to the capacity) and see if its' less than 220K or 286K, that will determine the truck size used.

Freight Car Trucks and Wheel Diameters:
50 Ton Trucks ride on 33" Wheels
70 Ton Trucks ride on 33" Wheels
100 Ton Trucks ride on 36" Wheels
125 Ton Trucks ride on 38" Wheels
NOTE: Freight Car Trucks and Wheelset Diameters are meant as a rule of thumb, there can be variations to this in the 1:1 scale world thus also in the 1:160 scale world.

N-Scale Wheel Diameter Conversions:
.175" (4,45mm) = 28" Wheels
.188" (4,76mm) = 30" Wheels
.206" (5,24mm) = 33" Wheels
.225" (5,72mm) = 36" Wheels
.238" (6,03mm) = 38" Wheels

N-Scale (Metal) Wheelsets:
Fox Valley Models -> 28" , 33" and 36" Metal Wheelsets
Fox Valley Models -> Axle Lengths:
.540" (13.72 mm) -> Micro Trains & Athearn Trucks
.553" (14.05 mm) -> Intermountain & Atlas(recent) Trucks
.563" (14.30 mm) -> Con-Cor & Bachmann & Atlas(old) Trucks
Intermountain Railway Co. -> (Metal) Wheelsets
NorthWest Short Line -> Metal Wheelsets (Detectable Metal Wheel Sets used for train detection, signaling etc.)
Micro Trains -> Wheelsets
BLMA -----> 33" and 36" Metal Wheelsets (Axle length is .537" (13.64 mm))
ExactRail -> 33" and 36" Metal Wheelsets (Axle length is .538" (13.67 mm))
Athearn --> 33" and 36" Metal Wheelsets (Axle length is .5445" (13.83 mm))

N-Scale Odd Ball Axle Length:
Atlas .568" (1,444cm) used under the 20,700 gal tank car.

N-Scale Pizza Cutters:
Have a look at MooseID's post "What are 'Pizza Cutters'". -> http://www.nscale.net/forums/showthread.php?16270-What-are-Pizza-Cutters

N-Scale Knuckle Coupler Names:
Additional Information -> http://www.nscaledivision.com/information_on_couplers.htm
Micro Trains --> Magne-Matic
Athearn -------> McHenry (Info: McHenry Couplers and Athearn are members of Horizon Hobby)
KATO --------> Semi Automatic / Kinematic (used on the “Morning Daylight”)
Atlas ----------> Accumate (Info: Couplers are manufactured by Atlas under license from AccuRail, Inc.)
Bachmann -----> Dummy knuckle coupler / E-Z Mate Mark II Coupler
Con-Cor -> Rigid Jaw Coupler
NZT Products -> ProtoMate

Older, Other, Discontinued:
Red Caboose -> Unimate
Intermountain Railway Co. -> ??
The Rapido Coupler -> http://www.nscaledivision.com/information_on_couplers.htm

(N-Scale) Knuckle Coupler Height(s):
1:1 Scale Knuckle Coupler Heights (top of rail to middle of coupler)
Source -> http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/4059192/description.html
Empty cars -> min 32 1/2" max 34 1/2"
Loaded cars-> min 31 1/2" max 33 1/2"
N-scale (x/160)
Empty cars -> min 0.203" max 0.216" (5,2mm / 5,5mm)
Loaded cars-> min 0.197" max 0.209" (5,0mm / 5,3mm)
N-Scale Standard Knuckle Coupler Height (top of rail to middle of coupler)
0.216" (5,5mm) which is the same as the max height for an empty car.

DrifterNL
19th Jan 2015, 03:48 AM
N-Scale Freight Car / Passenger Car / Caboose Trucks:
Info on trucks -> http://www.spookshow.net/trucks/trucks.php (http://www.spookshow.net/trucks/trucks.php)
Micro Trains -> Many Different Styles
BLMA -> 70 Ton / 100 Ton (Great for lowering ride height without modifying bolsters)
BLMA -> 70 Ton Friction Bearing Trucks (New Product / Great for lowering ride height without modifying bolsters)
Atlas -> Different Styles (The Atlas 100 Ton truck also lowers ride height without modifying bolsters)
Intermountain Railway Co. -> A Few
KATO -> A Few (Select a freight car under "N-Scale Products" to look up trucks)
RAPIDO TRAINS INC. -> 41-BNO-11 / 41-N-11
WHEELS OF TIME -> 6 Wheel Heavyweight Drop-Equalizer Passenger Truck

Freight Car Trucks Friction Bearing:
Banned from interchange service in:
01-01-1991 for cars carrying hazardous materials.
01-01-1994 for cars carrying non-hazardous materials.
01-01-1995 for cars with trucks that were converted from friction to roller bearing side frames (Hot Box detectors could not detect them if / when they overheated).

Freight Cars & Truck Sizes, What Size To Use?
I found a post on The Railwire about 70 Ton and 100 Ton trucks and how to look up which truck to use under your rolling stock, read reply #12 -> http://therailwire.net/forum/index.p...html#msg199337 (http://therailwire.net/forum/index.php/topic,19312.msg199337.html#msg199337)
Post from "Hyperion" on The Railwire:
The rating of a truck refers to the capacity of the load the car is allowed to carry, and it is actually an estimate at best.Today, a "100T" truck can carry a 286,000lb total load inclusive of the car weight (i.e. gross rail weight) (263K prior to, I believe, 1994). A "70T" truck car carry a 220,000lb total weight inclusive of the car.So rather than looking at the capacity, look at the total gross weight (add light/tare weight to the capacity) and see if its' less than 220K or 286K, that will determine the truck size used.

Also have a look here (post #2 from MrMRL and post #5 from RioGrandeFan) -> http://www.trainorders.com/discussion/read.php?3,3141507 (http://www.trainorders.com/discussion/read.php?3,3141507)

Freight Car Trucks and Wheel Diameters:
50 Ton Trucks ride on 33" Wheels
70 Ton Trucks ride on 33" Wheels
100 Ton Trucks ride on 36" Wheels
125 Ton Trucks ride on 38" Wheels
NOTE: Freight Car Trucks and Wheelset Diameters are meant as a rule of thumb, there can be variations to this in the 1:1 scale world thus also in the 1:160 scale world.

N-Scale Wheel Diameter Conversions:
.175" (4,45mm) = 28" Wheels
.188" (4,76mm) = 30" Wheels
.206" (5,24mm) = 33" Wheels
.225" (5,72mm) = 36" Wheels
.238" (6,03mm) = 38" Wheels

N-Scale (Metal) Wheelsets:
Axle Lengths:
.540" (13.72 mm) -> Micro Trains & Athearn Trucks
.553" (14.05 mm) -> Intermountain & Atlas(recent) Trucks
.563" (14.30 mm) -> Con-Cor & Bachmann & Atlas(old) Trucks
.568" (14,43 mm) -> used under the Atlas 20,700 gal tank car.

N-Scale (Metal) Wheelsets Manufacturers:
Fox Valley Models -> 28" , 33" and 36" Metal Wheelsets
Intermountain Railway Co. -> 33" and 36" (Metal) Wheelsets
NorthWest Short Line -> Metal Wheelsets (Detectable Metal Wheel Sets used for train detection, signaling etc.)
Micro Trains -> 33" Wheelsets
BLMA -----> 33" and 36" Metal Wheelsets (Axle length is .537" (13.64 mm))
ExactRail -> 33" and 36" Metal Wheelsets (Axle length is .538" (13.67 mm))
Athearn --> 33" and 36" Metal Wheelsets (Axle length is .5445" (13.83 mm))

N-Scale Pizza Cutters:
Have a look at MooseID's post "What are 'Pizza Cutters'". -> http://www.nscale.net/forums/showthr...-Pizza-Cutters (http://www.nscale.net/forums/showthread.php?16270-What-are-Pizza-Cutters)

N-Scale Knuckle Coupler Names:
Additional Information -> http://www.nscaledivision.com/inform...n_couplers.htm (http://www.nscaledivision.com/information_on_couplers.htm)
Micro Trains --> Magne-Matic
Athearn -------> McHenry (Info: McHenry Couplers and Athearn are members of Horizon Hobby)
KATO --------> Semi Automatic / Kinematic (used on the “Morning Daylight”)
Atlas ----------> Accumate (Info: Couplers are manufactured by Atlas under license from AccuRail, Inc.)
Bachmann -----> Dummy knuckle coupler / E-Z Mate Mark II Coupler
Con-Cor -> Rigid Jaw Coupler
NZT Products -> ProtoMate (coming in 2015?)

Older, Other, Discontinued:
Red Caboose -> Unimate
Intermountain Railway Co. -> ??
The Rapido Coupler -> http://www.nscaledivision.com/inform...n_couplers.htm (http://www.nscaledivision.com/information_on_couplers.htm)

(N-Scale) Knuckle Coupler Height(s):
1:1 Scale Knuckle Coupler Heights (top of rail to middle of coupler)
Source -> http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/40...scription.html (http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/4059192/description.html)
Empty cars -> min 32 1/2" max 34 1/2"
Loaded cars-> min 31 1/2" max 33 1/2"
N-scale (x/160)
Empty cars -> min 0.203" max 0.216" (5,2mm / 5,5mm)
Loaded cars-> min 0.197" max 0.209" (5,0mm / 5,3mm)
N-Scale Standard Knuckle Coupler Height (top of rail to middle of coupler)
0.216" (5,5mm) which is the same as the max height for an empty car.

DrifterNL
2nd Jun 2015, 10:54 AM
More:
N-Scale Knuckle Coupler Names:

Older, Other, Discontinued:
Model Power -> name not known, was a dummy coupler

nscaler711
26th Jul 2015, 03:51 AM
The Protomate may never see the light of day as long as DKS is out....
as for the MP Couplers they are very similar if not the same as the dummy knuckles Bmann had.

Thanks for all the work you're doing DrifterNL

DrifterNL
9th Aug 2015, 10:46 AM
More:
N-Scale Freight Car / Passenger Car / Caboose Trucks:

CON-COR (http://www.con-cor.com/) -> Many different styles (http://www.con-cor.com/CouplerConversions.html)

More:
N-Scale (Metal) Wheelsets Manufacturers:

CON-COR -> Metal Wheelsets (diameter not known to me)

DrifterNL
17th Nov 2015, 02:43 PM
More:
N-Scale (Metal) Wheelsets:

Intermountain Railway Co. High Detail Brass Isolated 33" and 36" Wheelsets
Intermountain Railway Co. High Detail Brass Isolated (diameter?) Wheelsets to fit Micro Trains Trucks

http://www.intermountain-railway.com/n/nacc.htm

Picture -> http://www.pwrs.ca/announcements/view.php?ID=11588

DrifterNL
1st Sep 2016, 06:30 PM
Announcements:

Joe D'Amato of Micro Trains has put up a preview of their True-Scale coupler system!
http://www.trainboard.com/highball/index.php?threads/preview-of-mtl-new-true-scale-coupler-system.97901/

Discussion / Comments here -> http://www.nscale.net/forums/showthread.php?41214-MTL-Announcement-Preview-True-Scale-coupler-system!

83424

mastergeebo
1st Sep 2016, 06:58 PM
Huh, I was going to have to change couplers on several cars anyway. I might give these a try since I haven't built up a fleet yet.

Carolina Northern
1st Sep 2016, 07:30 PM
These look nice, but Joe says they don't mate with ANYTHING currently on the market. Could be they're downfall.

Don

DrifterNL
16th Sep 2016, 04:14 PM
More:
N-Scale Freight Car / Passenger Car / Caboose Trucks:
Fox Valley Models -> Caboose and Passenger car Trucks

Update:
N-Scale Knuckle Coupler Names:
Fox Valley Models (Red Caboose) -> Static Coupler (Unimate)

DrifterNL
12th Mar 2017, 09:23 AM
N-Scale Freight Car / Passenger Car / Caboose Trucks:
Info on trucks -> http://www.spookshow.net/trucks/trucks.php (http://www.spookshow.net/trucks/trucks.php)
Micro Trains -> Many Different Styles
Atlas (BLMA) -> 70 Ton / 100 Ton (Great for lowering ride height without the need to modify bolsters)
Atlas (BLMA) -> 70 Ton Friction Bearing Trucks (Great for lowering ride height without the need to modify bolsters)
Atlas -> Different Styles (The Atlas 100 Ton truck also lowers ride height without the need to modify bolsters)
Intermountain Railway Co. -> A Few
KATO -> A Few (Select a freight car under "N-Scale Products" to look up trucks)
RAPIDO TRAINS INC. -> 41-BNO-11 / 41-N-11
WHEELS OF TIME -> 6 Wheel Heavyweight Drop-Equalizer Passenger Truck
CON-COR -> Many Different Styles
Fox Valley Models -> Caboose and Passenger car Trucks

Freight Car Trucks Friction Bearing:
Banned from interchange service in:
01-01-1991 for cars carrying hazardous materials.
01-01-1994 for cars carrying non-hazardous materials.
01-01-1995 for cars with trucks that were converted from friction to roller bearing side frames (Hot Box detectors could not detect them if / when they overheated).

Freight Cars & Truck Sizes, What Size To Use?
I found a post on The Railwire about 70 Ton and 100 Ton trucks and how to look up which truck to use under your rolling stock, read reply #12 -> Link Broken
Post from "Hyperion" on The Railwire:
The rating of a truck refers to the capacity of the load the car is allowed to carry, and it is actually an estimate at best.Today, a "100T" truck can carry a 286,000lb total load inclusive of the car weight (i.e. gross rail weight) (263K prior to, I believe, 1994). A "70T" truck car carry a 220,000lb total weight inclusive of the car.So rather than looking at the capacity, look at the total gross weight (add light/tare weight to the capacity) and see if its' less than 220K or 286K, that will determine the truck size used.

Also have a look here (post #2 from MrMRL and post #5 from RioGrandeFan) -> http://www.trainorders.com/discussion/read.php?3,3141507 (http://www.trainorders.com/discussion/read.php?3,3141507)

Freight Car Trucks and Wheel Diameters:
50 Ton Trucks ride on 33" Wheels
70 Ton Trucks ride on 33" Wheels
100 Ton Trucks ride on 36" Wheels
125 Ton Trucks ride on 38" Wheels
NOTE: Freight Car Trucks and Wheelset Diameters are meant as a rule of thumb, there can be variations to this in the 1:1 scale world thus also in the 1:160 scale world.

N-Scale Wheel Diameter Conversions:
.175" (4,45mm) = 28" Wheels
.188" (4,76mm) = 30" Wheels
.206" (5,24mm) = 33" Wheels
.225" (5,72mm) = 36" Wheels
.238" (6,03mm) = 38" Wheels

N-Scale (Metal) Wheelsets:
*Axle Lengths:
.537" (13.64 mm) -> Atlas (BLMA)
.540" (13.72 mm) -> Micro Trains & Fox Valley Models
.5445" (13.83 mm) -> Athearn
.545" (13.84 mm) -> Walthers
.549" (13.94 mm) -> Roundhouse & Lima & Rivarossi
.553" (14.05 mm) -> Intermountain & Atlas(recent) Trucks
.560" (14.22 mm) -> Bachmann
.563" (14.30 mm) -> Con-Cor & Kato & Atlas(old) Trucks
.567" (14.40 mm) -> Model Power
.568" (14.43 mm) -> used under the Atlas 20,700 gal tank car
.573" (14.55 mm) -> Arnold-Rapido
.576" (14.63 mm) -> ??

*N-Scale (Metal) Wheelsets Manufacturers:
Fox Valley Models -> 28" , 33" and 36" Metal Wheelsets (Fine and Wide Tread and Resistance Wheelsets for train detection, signaling etc.)
Intermountain Railway Co. -> 33" and 36" (Metal) Wheelsets
Intermountain Railway Co. -> High Detail Brass Isolated 33" and 36" Wheelsets
Intermountain Railway Co. -> High Detail Brass Isolated (diameter?) Wheelsets to fit Micro Trains Trucks
NorthWest Short Line -> Metal Wheelsets (Detectable Metal Wheel Sets used for train detection, signaling etc.)
Micro Trains -> 33" & 36" Wheelsets (High and Standard profile-flange / black and brown colour)
Atlas (BLMA) -----> 33" and 36" Metal Wheelsets (Axle length is .537" (13.64 mm))
ExactRail -> 33" and 36" Metal Wheelsets (Axle length is .538" (13.67 mm))
Athearn --> 33" and 36" Metal Wheelsets (Axle length is .5445" (13.83 mm))
CON-COR -> Metal Wheelsets (diameter?)

*N-Scale Pizza Cutters:
Have a look at MooseID's post "What are 'Pizza Cutters'". -> http://www.nscale.net/forums/showthr...-Pizza-Cutters (http://www.nscale.net/forums/showthread.php?16270-What-are-Pizza-Cutters)

N-Scale Knuckle Coupler Names:
Additional Information -> http://www.nscaledivision.com/inform...n_couplers.htm (http://www.nscaledivision.com/information_on_couplers.htm)
*Current:
Micro Trains ---> Magne-Matic / True-Scale Coupler
Athearn --------> McHenry (Info: McHenry Couplers and Athearn are members of Horizon Hobby)
KATO ----------> Semi Automatic / Kinematic (used on the “Morning Daylight”)
Atlas -----------> Accumate (Info: Couplers are manufactured by Atlas under license from AccuRail, Inc.)
Bachmann -----> Dummy knuckle coupler / E-Z Mate Mark II Coupler
Con-Cor -------> Rigid Jaw Coupler
Fox Valley Models (Red Caboose) -> Static Coupler (Unimate)
NZT Products -> ProtoMate (coming in ????)

*Older, Other, Discontinued:
Intermountain Railway Co. -> ??
The Rapido Coupler -> http://www.nscaledivision.com/inform...n_couplers.htm (http://www.nscaledivision.com/information_on_couplers.htm)
Model Power -> name not known, was a dummy coupler

(N-Scale) Knuckle Coupler Height(s):
*1:1 Scale Knuckle Coupler Heights (top of rail to middle of coupler)
Source -> http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/40...scription.html (http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/4059192/description.html)
Empty cars -> min 32 1/2" max 34 1/2"
Loaded cars-> min 31 1/2" max 33 1/2"
*N-scale (x/160)
Empty cars -> min 0.203" max 0.216" (5,2mm / 5,5mm)
Loaded cars-> min 0.197" max 0.209" (5,0mm / 5,3mm)
*N-Scale Standard Knuckle Coupler Height (top of rail to middle of coupler)
0.216" (5,5mm)

Tred
12th Mar 2017, 10:18 AM
Thanks for the update! (And all the hard work that went into it.)

mgilger
12th Mar 2017, 10:42 AM
Thanks for re posting and keeping this stuff current.
Mark

DrifterNL
8th Dec 2017, 12:49 PM
N-Scale Freight Car / Passenger Car / Caboose Trucks:
Info on trucks -> http://www.spookshow.net/trucks/trucks.php (http://www.spookshow.net/trucks/trucks.php)
Micro Trains -> Many Different Styles
Atlas ([-]BLMA[/-]) -> 70 Ton / 100 Ton (Great for lowering ride height without the need to modify bolsters)
Atlas ([-]BLMA[/-]) -> 70 Ton Friction Bearing Trucks (Great for lowering ride height without the need to modify bolsters)
Atlas -> Different Styles (The Atlas 100 Ton truck also lowers ride height without the need to modify bolsters)
Intermountain Railway Co. -> A Few
KATO -> A Few (Select a freight car under "N-Scale Products" to look up trucks)
RAPIDO TRAINS INC. -> 41-BNO-11 / 41-N-11
WHEELS OF TIME -> 6 Wheel Heavyweight Drop-Equalizer Passenger Truck
CON-COR -> Many Different Styles
Fox Valley Models -> Caboose and Passenger car Trucks

Freight Car Trucks Friction Bearing:
Banned from interchange service in:
01-01-1991 for cars carrying hazardous materials.
01-01-1994 for cars carrying non-hazardous materials.
01-01-1995 for cars with trucks that were converted from friction to roller bearing side frames (Hot Box detectors could not detect them if / when they overheated).

Freight Cars & Truck Sizes, What Size To Use?
I found a post on The Railwire about 70 Ton and 100 Ton trucks and how to look up which truck to use under your rolling stock, read reply #12 -> Link Broken
Post from "Hyperion" on The Railwire:
The rating of a truck refers to the capacity of the load the car is allowed to carry, and it is actually an estimate at best.Today, a "100T" truck can carry a 286,000lb total load inclusive of the car weight (i.e. gross rail weight) (263K prior to, I believe, 1994). A "70T" truck car carry a 220,000lb total weight inclusive of the car.So rather than looking at the capacity, look at the total gross weight (add light/tare weight to the capacity) and see if its' less than 220K or 286K, that will determine the truck size used.

Also have a look here (post #2 from MrMRL and post #5 from RioGrandeFan) -> http://www.trainorders.com/discussion/read.php?3,3141507 (http://www.trainorders.com/discussion/read.php?3,3141507)

Freight Car Trucks and Wheel Diameters:
50 Ton Trucks ride on 33" Wheels
70 Ton Trucks ride on 33" Wheels
100 Ton Trucks ride on 36" Wheels
125 Ton Trucks ride on 38" Wheels
NOTE: Freight Car Trucks and Wheelset Diameters are meant as a rule of thumb, there can be variations to this in the 1:1 scale world thus also in the 1:160 scale world.

N-Scale Wheel Diameter Conversions:
.175" (4,45mm) = 28" Wheels
.188" (4,76mm) = 30" Wheels
.206" (5,24mm) = 33" Wheels
.225" (5,72mm) = 36" Wheels
.238" (6,03mm) = 38" Wheels

N-Scale (Metal) Wheelsets:
*Axle Lengths:
.537" (13.64 mm) -> Atlas ([-]BLMA[/-])
.540" (13.72 mm) -> Micro Trains & Fox Valley Models & ExactRail
.5445" (13.83 mm) -> Athearn
.545" (13.84 mm) -> Walthers
.549" (13.94 mm) -> Roundhouse & Lima & Rivarossi
.553" (14.05 mm) -> Intermountain & Atlas(recent) Trucks
.560" (14.22 mm) -> Bachmann
.563" (14.30 mm) -> Con-Cor & Kato & Atlas(old) Trucks
.567" (14.40 mm) -> Model Power
.568" (14.43 mm) -> used under the Atlas 20,700 gal tank car
.573" (14.55 mm) -> Arnold-Rapido
.576" (14.63 mm) -> ??

*N-Scale (Metal) Wheelsets Manufacturers:
Fox Valley Models -> 28" , 33" and 36" Metal Wheelsets (Fine and Wide Tread and Resistance Wheelsets for train detection, signaling etc.)
Intermountain Railway Co. -> 33" and 36" (Metal) Wheelsets
Intermountain Railway Co. -> High Detail Brass Isolated 33" and 36" Wheelsets
Intermountain Railway Co. -> High Detail Brass Isolated (diameter?) Wheelsets to fit Micro Trains Trucks
NorthWest Short Line -> Metal Wheelsets (Detectable Metal Wheel Sets used for train detection, signaling etc.)
Micro Trains -> 33" & 36" Wheelsets (High and Standard profile-flange / black and brown colour)
Atlas ([-]BLMA[/-]) -----> 33" and 36" Metal Wheelsets (Axle length is .537" (13.64 mm))
ExactRail -> 33" and 36" Metal Wheelsets (Axle length is .540" (13.72 mm))
Athearn --> 33" and 36" Metal Wheelsets (Axle length is .5445" (13.83 mm))
CON-COR -> Metal Wheelsets (diameter?)

*N-Scale Pizza Cutters:
Have a look at MooseID's post "What are 'Pizza Cutters'". -> http://www.nscale.net/forums/showthr...-Pizza-Cutters (http://www.nscale.net/forums/showthread.php?16270-What-are-Pizza-Cutters)

N-Scale Knuckle Coupler Names:
Additional Information -> http://www.nscaledivision.com/inform...n_couplers.htm (http://www.nscaledivision.com/information_on_couplers.htm)
*Current:
Micro Trains ---> Magne-Matic / True-Scale Coupler
Athearn --------> McHenry (Info: McHenry Couplers and Athearn are members of Horizon Hobby)
KATO ----------> Semi Automatic / Kinematic (used on the “Morning Daylight”)
Atlas -----------> Accumate (Info: Couplers are manufactured by Atlas under license from AccuRail, Inc.)
Bachmann -----> Dummy knuckle coupler / E-Z Mate Mark II Coupler
Con-Cor -------> Rigid Jaw Coupler
Fox Valley Models ([-]Red Caboose[/-]) -> Static Coupler ([-]Unimate[/-])
NZT Products -> ProtoMate (coming in ????)

*Older, Other, Discontinued:
Intermountain Railway Co. -> ??
The Rapido Coupler -> http://www.nscaledivision.com/inform...n_couplers.htm (http://www.nscaledivision.com/information_on_couplers.htm)
Model Power -> name not known, was a dummy coupler

(N-Scale) Knuckle Coupler Height(s):
*1:1 Scale Knuckle Coupler Heights (top of rail to middle of coupler)
Source -> http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/40...scription.html (http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/4059192/description.html)
Empty cars -> min 32 1/2" max 34 1/2"
Loaded cars-> min 31 1/2" max 33 1/2"
*N-scale (x/160)
Empty cars -> min 0.203" max 0.216" (5,2mm / 5,5mm)
Loaded cars-> min 0.197" max 0.209" (5,0mm / 5,3mm)
*N-Scale Standard Knuckle Coupler Height (top of rail to middle of coupler)
0.216" (5,5mm)

Scotian_Huntress
8th Dec 2017, 06:53 PM
Thanks - saved for future use!

Futbolb13
14th Jul 2018, 11:17 PM
New member here, just building up posts. What a ton of great information, especially helpful for someone like myself - casual HO guy looking to go serious N. :)
Thanks!

DrifterNL
21st Nov 2018, 07:26 PM
More:
N-Scale (Metal) Wheelsets:

Rapido Trains Inc. 33" and 36" Metal Wheelsets (13.72mm / .540" axle).

From the website:

Wheelset Features:


Accurate turned metal construction
Insulated on one side
Blackened
Non-magnetic
RP-25 flanges
33″ and 36” sizes available

DrifterNL
22nd Nov 2018, 06:56 PM
More:
N-Scale Knuckle Coupler Names:

NZT Products -> ProtoMate (coming in ????)

From the website:

Dear friends, it is with a very heavy heart that I must close down NZT Products.
I am faced with a combination of health and personal issues that prevent me from continuing to work.
Thank you all for your enthusiastic support up to now. It has been genuinely fun and rewarding.

StrasburgNut
22nd Nov 2018, 09:17 PM
More:
N-Scale Knuckle Coupler Names:

NZT Products -> ProtoMate (coming in ????)

From the website:

Dear friends, it is with a very heavy heart that I must close down NZT Products.
I am faced with a combination of health and personal issues that prevent me from continuing to work.
Thank you all for your enthusiastic support up to now. It has been genuinely fun and rewarding.

You are kinda late to the party with this one.... This happened a couple years back.

jpwisc
22nd Nov 2018, 10:09 PM
Tangent has 36” metal wheels available now. They come in a .537” axle length and have a realistic rear profile.

DrifterNL
23rd Nov 2018, 01:19 PM
You are kinda late to the party with this one.... This happened a couple years back.

As are you...
From my original post from May, 2010 -> "*See a error or have something to add? let me know (post)!*"

StrasburgNut
23rd Nov 2018, 02:02 PM
As are you...
From my original post from May, 2010 -> "*See a error or have something to add? let me know (post)!*"
Then why did you re-post it yesterday as if it just happened? :rofl:

No worries, it makes sense ;)

Chaos Railway
6th Feb 2019, 03:53 PM
Anyone know what metal wheelsets to replace the plastic Bluford SHops 3 bay hoppers with?

Allen H.
6th Feb 2019, 10:03 PM
Anyone know what metal wheelsets to replace the plastic Bluford SHops 3 bay hoppers with?


I just checked a couple of mine.
The first one I checked was from the latest run which, actually had metal wheel sets on it, they measured 0.5395"
The second one had plastic wheels sets and they measured 0.540"

Hope that helps?

Chaos Railway
7th Feb 2019, 09:10 PM
Thanks Allen. I wanted to get this right as I have about 20 of these cars.

Here is the reply I received from Bluford -


Hi Milne,[/COLOR]
Our current runs use Fox Valley Models 33” wheels with .553” axels.

Best,

Craig
Bluford Shops]

Chaos Railway
20th Jul 2019, 10:34 AM
So I ended up trying two axle / wheel sizes. 33" .553 and because I had quite a few, I tried what I was using on the Micro trains - .54 I did about 10 cars of each wheel size for three operating sessions. The cars were switched at the mine, then onto a main line freight, then off the layout. Not a big test, but I did not have any problems with either size axle / wheel.
Sessions are over till the fall, and I am having trouble getting many of the N scale axle wheel sets - out of stock.
Has anyone used an oversized or undersized axle / wheel? I'm wondering how necessary it is to get the exact sizing.

S ARR T 8
20th Jul 2019, 11:13 AM
What metal wheel sets work on the Buford Shops transfer caboose?

Bronman
20th Jul 2019, 01:09 PM
I'm wondering how necessary it is to get the exact sizing.

For good operation it's pretty necessary. If the axle is too long you'll have excess drag limiting the length of your trains and potentially causing derailments (bad), if it's too short the wheelset will fall out of the truck causing derailments and electrical shorts (really bad).

If you don't have the correct axle length and HAVE to run that car, go oversize and flex your trucks out some. They'll eventually go back but are elastic enough to get you through a session with LESS trouble.

Paul Schmidt
20th Jul 2019, 01:28 PM
What metal wheel sets work on the Buford Shops transfer caboose?

I'm pretty sure Fox Valley .553" wheelsets will do fine. The trick is finding any.

DrifterNL
11th Sep 2019, 01:19 PM
More:
N-Scale (Metal) Wheelsets:
Eastern Seaboard Models -> 33" fine scale Metal Wheelsets with .540" (13.72 mm) axle.
From the website -> Precision-machined fine-scale chemically-blackened non-magnetic insulated metal wheelsets, with prototypical wheel faces. Operational on Code 40 rail without hitting the spikes. Made in U.S.A.
http://www.esmc.com/9200/Item9201.html

N-Scale Freight Car / Passenger Car / Caboose Trucks:
Eastern Seaboard Models -> ASF Ride Control Trucks, 70 Tons.
From the website -> Fine scale roller-bearing trucks accurate to the prototype, fitted with 33" presicion-machined fine scale wheelsets with accurate face profile. Will operate on Code 40 rail without hitting the spikes. Made in China.
http://www.esmc.com/9200/Item9210.html

Allen H.
11th Sep 2019, 01:23 PM
Still not 100% sold on Metal wheels, but I'm glad to see Brian is jumping in to help bring these to market with the diminished supplies today.