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  • Body-mount conversions for tank cars, hoppers, etc. with long end platforms

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    Published on 1st Oct 2018 05:50 PM
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    Hello everyone,


    I wrote this up for a forum of my model railroading club, but I think it could be of interest here too, so I'm copy-and-pasting it here:

    I have quite a few tank cars with truck mounted couplers and looked for a way to convert them to body-mounted MTL couplers, preferably 1015s. Anything mounted on the end platforms - like a standard 1015 - will both look stupid and put strain on the platforms. A fellow modeler had found some extra long coupler boxes on Shapeways, which looked like they could solve the problem because they could be screwed right to the tank. I got in contact with the seller and he very nicely adapted them to the length I needed and to 1015 couplers - they can be found here: https://www.shapeways.com/shops/wutt...pler+Boxes&s=0 - Make sure to get the correct ones for your couplers, his standard boxes are for 1025/1026 type couplers.

    The process is quite simple, takes about 30 minutes per car if you don’t take pictures along the way…

    This is the tools and materials required:
    https://www.nscale.net/forums/cache....09-29_0002.jpg

    The drills are 0.8mm, the screws are 1.2mm x 8mm panhead philips plastic screws, similar to DIN7981, black to make life easier.
    The car at the beginning (trucks taken off already for weathering):
    https://www.nscale.net/forums/cache....09-29_0001.jpg

    After cleaning the 3D printed parts (I used dishwasher detergent in hot water, probably some solvent works better) remove the parts from the sprue and pull them across a file to smooth the surface. This also removes some more wax from the print process, I believe:
    https://www.nscale.net/forums/cache....09-29_0003.jpg

    Then paint the parts - inside with a pencil to add some graphite for lubrication, as per Wuttermelon’s advice:
    https://www.nscale.net/forums/cache....09-29_0004.jpg

    (I used a 4B pencil to add some extra graphite)
    Outside with a black marker - the lid only needs some marker around the screw hole, the box needs to be black after this step:
    https://www.nscale.net/forums/cache....09-29_0005.jpg

    On this specific car (an Athearn ethanol tank car), I needed to cut away the end of the frame right next to the truck holster, which I did with a hobby knife. This largely depends on the specific car - for my Atlas 25500gal tank cars and my Atlas plastics hoppers there was no need to modify the frame (on the hopper, the screw will be moved back far enough to not be too obstrusive any more, but not all the way into the bin). After the modification, test fit the box to the car and mark the spot you want to drill - if I didn’t have to hold the camera, you’d see a pair of tweezers holding the coupler box:
    https://www.nscale.net/forums/cache....09-29_0006.jpg

    Drill an 0.8mm hole in that spot, as deep as possible (though the tank is hollow, so once you are inside, it does not matter). Make sure to get the hole in as straight as possible, this is crucial for a well-aligned coupler:
    https://www.nscale.net/forums/cache....09-29_0007.jpg

    Next, assemble the coupler as per the instructions from MTL:
    https://www.nscale.net/forums/cache....09-29_0009.jpg

    https://www.nscale.net/forums/cache....09-29_0008.jpg

    https://www.nscale.net/forums/cache....09-29_0010.jpg

    Put a screw through the lid and the box…
    https://www.nscale.net/forums/cache....09-29_0011.jpg

    …and attach both to the car, tightening the screw all the way and then loosening it a turn or two again to tilt the lid away from the box:
    https://www.nscale.net/forums/cache....09-29_0012.jpg

    https://www.nscale.net/forums/cache....09-29_0013.jpg

    Put the two halves of the coupler into the box, squeezing it in under the lid…
    https://www.nscale.net/forums/cache....09-29_0014.jpg

    …and, as suggested by MTL, use the tip of a knife to maneuver the spring in place:
    https://www.nscale.net/forums/cache....09-29_0015.jpg

    https://www.nscale.net/forums/cache....09-29_0016.jpg

    Tighten the screw and paint the rest of the lid black and the car is ready for trucks:
    https://www.nscale.net/forums/cache....09-29_0017.jpg

    https://www.nscale.net/forums/cache....09-29_0018.jpg

    The result is OK to my eyes, although this is actually the worst car in a row of nine:
    https://www.nscale.net/forums/cache....09-29_0019.jpg

    https://www.nscale.net/forums/cache....09-29_0020.jpg

    Hope this helps, and if there are any questions, go ahead...
    Heiko
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    1. Tim R's Avatar
      Tim R - 1st Oct 2018, 06:34 PM
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      This a good overview, but I don't recognize these coupler boxes. What type of couplers is this?

      Thanks
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      Heiko - 8th Oct 2018, 07:46 AM
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      Quote Originally Posted by Tim R View Post
      This a good overview, but I don't recognize these coupler boxes. What type of couplers is this?

      Thanks
      The coupler boxes are from Shapeways, a guy called Wuttermelon makes them. For some reason, the "promotion" of my post to an article only got the second half, check the first half for the link: https://www.nscale.net/forums/showthr...-end-platforms

      Thanks for your comment,
      Heiko
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      Heiko - 8th Oct 2018, 07:48 AM
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      ...I will attempt to edit the article to include all of it. Tonight, when I'll be home...

      Heiko
    1. Tim R's Avatar
      Tim R - 8th Oct 2018, 08:43 AM
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      Thank you Heiko, it makes a lot more sense with the whole thing.

      Quote Originally Posted by Heiko View Post
      ...I will attempt to edit the article to include all of it. Tonight, when I'll be home...

      Heiko
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      Heiko - 8th Oct 2018, 03:32 PM
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      I think this way it makes much more sense

      Heiko
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      The Ol' Curmudgeon - 19th Oct 2018, 04:21 AM
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      Great tutorial! Just what I needed for some of my rolling stock. Thanks!
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      Heiko - 19th Oct 2018, 06:49 AM
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      Thank you for the feedback - always a pleasure

      Heiko

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