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    Default That's big!

    We checked out the Quebec, North Shore and Labrador on vacation last week east of Quebec City. I have a piece of paper that claims 20 000 ton trains, up to 240 cars. They have quite a grade, but it is downhill with the loads.They are talking about building a new iron ore mine on northern Baffin Island in Canada, along with a new railway to move the ore to the coast. It's a company called Baffinland Mines, and it's talk of the town up there. Thanks for the link, that is neat to see. Cheers,Scott

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    Default At 137tonnes (151tons) of

    At 137tonnes (151tons) of ore per car... they're expecting to move 100 mtpa (110 million tons per annum), and the potential to go to 200 mtpa... That's a lot of ore in any language.
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    Default UP and BNSF have been

    UP and BNSF have been testing out trains over 200 cars, but they aren't hauling ore....that's some heavy schite!
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    Default 20,000 tons is not uncommon

    20,000 tons is not uncommon in coal country in the Powder River. Trains dont get much longer than 135 cars there due to the grades and curves causing problems with buff and draft forces. Train length is dictated by territory and the physical capacity of a knuckle more than it is by motive power. In the the PRB, it is common to use 4 AC units to power a train, usually with 2 serving as DP's. But even with the mild grades and long sidings there, length is dictated by whether or not it can all stay together. I have heard of trains over 200 cars, but usually these are on very flat territory and dont run very far. I would be interested to find a 200 car ore train; that is some wicked tonnage and I have no idea how they would keep it from constantly breaking in two unless it had some kind of special draft gear. Would be cool to see!

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    Default From the Norfolk and Western Historical Society.

    In the fall of 1967 the Norfolk and Western set a record with a 500 car coal train, running with 6 locomotives on relatively flat terrain. Had one broken knuckle while leaving the yard. This record stood until August 26-27, 1996 when South African Transport Services ran a train 7.3 KM long with 70,800 tons of iron ore with 16 engines (9 electric, 7 diesel) pulling 660 cars. A test on May 28, 1996, Australia ran an ore train 408 KM with 10 GE Dash-8's an average of 35 MPH hauling 57,309 tons of ore and 72,191 tonnes of train. (The mix of metric and non-metric measurements is the way the article has it). The consist was 3 locos, 135 cars, 2 locos, 135 cars, 2 locos , 135 cars, 2 locos, 135 cars, and 1 loco on the rear.The full discussion can be found here:http://list.nwhs.org/pipermail/nw-mailing-list/Week-of-Mon-20040503/000134.htmlTons or tonnes, that's a lotta weight!
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    Hey Jimmi,

    I went to the N&W Historical Society and found the article. The location is changed. They redid their archives. The new link is...

    http://six.pairlist.net/pipermail/nw...03/000134.html

    I guess this is the longest/heaviest run for the United States. All three of the runs were of diesel engines or mixed diesel/electric. Does anyone know of the longest train using Steam Locomotives?

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    Thanks for the update but just to things in perspective, this thread is about 18 months old!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sedlacekj View Post
    ... Does anyone know of the longest train using Steam Locomotives?
    Good question... I'm interested to see the answer.
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