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    Hey Guys,
    Just putting this up for something new to chew on. Grades up to 9.8%

    http://www.funimag.com/funimag28/Allegheny01.htm

    Enjoy,
    RaNdy

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    Wow! And now if we exceed 2% the world comes apart at the seams!
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    What a great site! I enjoyed reading the whole thing.

    Of course, I am a history buff.
    (The voices I hear in my head may not be real, but sometimes they come up with a good idea.)

    Have fun.

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    There is alot of rail history in this little part of the world.

    For example: Despite the 'offical story/history', My Grandpap and his partner hand-dug the first 40 yds. of what is now "Seldom Seen Coal Mine" (seasonally operating/tourist underground coal mine) http://www.seldomseenmine.com/

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    What an informative website. 9% grade, I would never have guessed.
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    I'm guessin that these grades were the learning curve and why they went to such expense to keep the grades what we 'know' are maximums now.
    Still would have loved to seen a nearly 10% ascent.
    Would only want to see the decent from behind at the top
    RaNdy

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    Two very interesting sites, i love to read about the history of railroading. We have a lot of mountains in PA, the Gravity RR not far from me had to climb the Moosic mountains. That railroad was part of the D&H RR. The pic below was known as THE SHEPARD'S CROOK.
    http://www.northeast.railfan.net/dh_gravity.html


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    Interesting site you linked to.

    From time to time I've wondered about modeling the Fløibanen in Bergen, NO. Id would be really cool to be able to get the cars already made up but I doubt it'll be possible.

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    As with you guys i love all railroad stories and appreciate the history of them. But the horseshoes, muleshoes, switchbacks, tunnels and trestles, cuts and valleys of home are what makes the 'quiver in my liver' as Roscoe P. Coletrain used to put it!

    Jeff, Is that an optical thing or is that a whole lot of superelevation right by the camera on that fantastic view?

    Dave, I've never heard of the Flobanen 'till now. I'm of 1/3 scandanavian decent and have always wanted to visit that area of the world.
    As far and modeling a funicular, i too have been thinking of the subject for part of my next layout ( as if this one ever gets finished). Basically a loosley based combination of part of the Allegheny/Portage RR and the Johnstown Inclined Plane maybe. www.InclinedPlane.com .

    If the old body could keep up with the thoughts...
    RaNdy

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    Randy, if you ever have an opportunity to go to Norway, you should ride both the Fløibana as well as the Flåmsbana. Both are cool rides.

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    You betcha Dave! Got the Inclined Plane under my belt (couple of times).
    Right now business is busy & now it takes a 3 week appoinment to go to the restroom.
    No one said retirement was harder, longer, more hours & stress than 'working'. All they said was alot less money, and man did they get that right!!!

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    love it ...great site!!

    ...ive hiked some of the old grade of the AP (as well as hiked around Muleshoe ) and been to the Historical Site in Cresson (and Horseshoe and the Railroaders Memorial and Scranton and Nicholson and on and on...i love PA)

    ...dunno how many of you history buffs get into it but here in SE Mi theres a group of us that do the "Ghost Chasing"...following abandoned roadbeds...finding old relics like water tank footings or bridge abutments...anything from a long ago time of Railroading......

    former Michigan Central line branching from the MC(NYC-PC-CR-NS) main in Marshall Mi and crossing the Kalamazoo river line abandoned prior WW2


    same line went thru a town called Homer...Homer had 3 lines crossing in town and around the turn of the last century saw over 50 passenger trains a day...last line was abondoned by Conrail early 80's...this is all there is now

    anyway....great site you put up about PA rail history
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigsparky65 View Post
    Two very interesting sites, i love to read about the history of railroading. We have a lot of mountains in PA, the Gravity RR not far from me had to climb the Moosic mountains. That railroad was part of the D&H RR. The pic below was known as THE SHEPARD'S CROOK.
    http://www.northeast.railfan.net/dh_gravity.html


    Sparky(Jeff)
    That Gravity RR is the quad path we use to get to lake Scranton and the peak of that mountain
    During the East mountain Fire over Easter that was the Fire line!
    Modeling the Pennsylvania Railroad Middle Divison in 1954

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    "Ghost Chasing" That sounds so cool!
    I woulda love to hike Muleshoe!! I'll bet it made you !
    Grew up close to a small town like Homer (Burnside, Pa), about 1 mile long that the tracks followed the river that crossed thru town 3 times (still does). A coal train pulling 100 cars would be to the next crossing before you could get to it. Most people there were anti-railfans when the trains were that long and that frequent. AAhhh....those were the days
    Most coal trains around here now are 50 cars and 3 days a week.

    Cody, you're so lucky what have ya found any RR goodies quading there?

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    The Shepard Crook on the Grvity RR was on the top of the Moosic Mountains in Waymart. That is no optical ilusion, it goes up one side of the mountain and curves back down the other side, just like a shepard crook.


    Sparky(Jeff)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Allegheny Pappy View Post

    Cody, you're so lucky what have ya found any RR goodies quading there?
    Well the gravity RR is long gone
    But other then that tons of stakes and plates and some rails(hehe) are for the taking but i plan to start taking a titanic load of pictures during the summer
    We actually use a old 3 track plate girder bridge(now only 2 tracks) to cross a road(To stay away from cops) and then follow the tracks.
    Last count is about 20 miles of Northbound track can be followed by our quads
    But I have heard of a trail that can be followed to the New York Border about 50mi North of here

    Sorry to hijack this thread guys
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    Quote Originally Posted by Allegheny Pappy;146304[I
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    No one said retirement was harder, longer, more hours & stress than 'working'. All they said was alot less money, and man did they get that right!!!
    My wife put it quite succinctly.

    She said, "You get twice the husband and half the money. I signed up for 'better or worse', not lunch every day."
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    Have fun.

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    We have a group of ghost chasers here in Southern idaho. We cruise abandoned rights of way and exercise our metal detectors around old railroad sites like train stops, water tanks, yards, sidings, etc. We find lots of good stuff. The best find was a badly rusted 1880s Colt .45, single action six shooter, 'the great equalizer of the west'.

    We don't use quad runners, it's all horses and dogs. The dogs are a bonus. When they get curoius about a spot, we get curious also, and check it out. We have found some good stuff that way.

    ATVs in general are frowned upon around here. Mostly because of the riders that have no respect for the beauty of nature at its best.
    (The voices I hear in my head may not be real, but sometimes they come up with a good idea.)

    Have fun.

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    Jeff, From that angle it seems to look super-elevated at the bottom of the image. Man Is that beautiful or what??

    Cody, Looking forward to seeing your pix from your summer (former) rail rides.

    Moose, My brother has horses and quads but i cant used either. Guess I have to stick to where i can take the jeep.
    Yup you're right a '80's Colt S/A would be quite a find! Can you imagine the stories it lived???
    '...not lunch every day'. Well then Don't get into the restaraunt biz, it's lunch all morning, day & night and everything in between!
    They found several union solders buttons and coins from that era at the Burnside train station, but it's in town and been picked over for years. No Colt .45's that i've ever heard of.

    If we get anytime off, we have Portage RR excursion planned for the next 'mental health day'. taking fresh memory cards and have the batteries charged for loads of pix &/or videos. Wondering how hard it's been metal detected?

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