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    Default Layout Version 3. Baseboard begins.

    Some significant changes were made on my layout plan since the last revisions (incomplete threads here: https://www.nscale.net/forums/showthread.php?t=13019 and here: http://nscale.net/forums/showthread.php?t=14484. Note: some posts are missing I think due to the migration to the new forum some months ago).


    Why the change?

    The major change has been a reduction of the overall layout size. I have decided on a single module 2000 x 700mm, rather than an "around the wall" layout and I made this tough decision based on three important factors.

    Firstly, embarking on a large "around the wall" layout would open myself up to a significant amount of work; more work than I have time for at present and indeed may have in the medium-term. I want this layout to be an enjoyable experience and not become a burden on me. I could clearly see myself not completing it. Secondly, creating a single module layout of this size would give me the opportunity to (hopefully) easily transport it to an exhibition in the future. Lastly, the all important factor: cost. I really had to consider the amount of money I would pour into the layout, and a smaller layout naturally means less construction costs.


    Layout Brief.

    Now I have decided 100% on the layout size, I dot-pointed what I wanted to include in the track plan.


    • A continous oval layout with two track storage sidings concealed behind the scenery.


    • Now that I have several Trinity corn syrup tankers, A HFCS (corn syrup) transfer yard such as Model Railroader's Model Railroad Planning 2010, page 68. would be ideal and I think a bit unique.- A small classification yard which also serves as 3-4 unloading dock for road transport. I haven't decided it purpose at this stage.- I need to change my mindset from my original large-scale plans, where I was going to include everything; several industries, classification yards, the whole box and dice. I need to make this layout uncomplicated and uncluttered.


    • The photo of a small layout Model Railroader's 102 Realistic Track Plans No. 5, page 24, gives a good visual indication of what I hope to acheive.


    • Atlas track and points and Tortoise slo-motion switch motors.


    • BN mainline with Wisconsin Central for a shortline/switching.


    • NCE Power Cab for DCC which is more than adequate for my needs. I envisage I would be running no more than 3 locos at any given time.


    Baseboard construction.

    I need to admit up front to you all that I am a stickler for detail. I over-engineer anything I build. Anything. If it needs two bolts, I put in four bolts. I also wanted the layout to give the presence of a piece of furniture, not some ratty ol' slapped together pine frame. This is my over-engineering brain kicking into gear.

    After several false starts experimenting with different timbers, I decided on Victorian Ash, which is a local Aussie hardwood from south east Australia. I used 90x19mm for the outer frame to create the module. Inside are two equally-spaced support beams using 65x19mm. The top face of these two support beams are 30mm lower than the top face of the outer frame. I did this to allow the polystyrene base material to be recessed into the baseboard. I then cut to size a piece of 5mm MDF sheet and place it inside the outer frame, resting on the inside support beams, then glued and nailed in place. At this point I polished all the timberwork with linseed oil and rubbed dry. The linseed oil really brought out the grain of the timbers.


    DCC panel.


    At one end I routed a neat hole to mount the NCE DCC panel.


    Scenery Foundation.

    Finally I cut to size 25mm (1-inch) polystyrene sheet and glued it to the MDF. The polystyrene protrudes about 3-4mm above the outer frame.


    Cabling.

    I have fitted cable clamps along the inside of the frame to run the cables.

    Track Plan.

    I will attempt to scan my pencil schematic and post it in this thread shortly but in the meantime here are some pictures of the baseboard constuction finally near completion.


    Legs.

    At present the baseboard is resting on my old pine version. I will construct some nice hardwood legs and supports next week.


    I hope the images make sense. The complete baseboard is currenntly sitting on the old pine basboard until I can construct some hardwood legs.
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    Regards,
    Stephen

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    Looks very nice. Good job. Looking forward to more pictures.
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    Very nice work. Very neat and I like the way you have everything thought out and planned.
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    Default Layout plan almost finalized

    As promised here are two versions of my final layout. I am trying not to squeeze too much into a small layout. I'm using the theory "less is more". I hope I can get some comments regarding its function. Sorry for the rough drawings. I'm an ol' fashioned graph paper and pencil guy.
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    I like both plans. Slight nod to Version 1. Your drawings are very neat. I tfrust you used accurate curve radii and turnout dimensions?
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    Looks like you are making furniture, not a layout. Very nice! You have some serious cabinetry skills!
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    I like them both but number one is definitely my favorite. Really like number one!
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    Another vote for #1. Seems like you struck a really good balance between scenery and track in that one.
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    Well, FWIW, I also like then both but number 2 is my favorite! When looking at them, one was OK but two just reached out and grabbed me!

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    I'm with BryanC on this one. #2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PigInZen View Post
    I'm with BryanC on this one. #2.

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    Since we're voting....
    I like #2 the best because of the many pickup/delivery locations.
    #1 has strong scenery possibilities.
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    TwinDad, thanks for your comments. Yes the radii are to scale and the turnouts are approximate. There may be some minor moving about with the turnouts but in general it's pretty close.

    SeanM, I am very fussy with visual appearance with anything I build.

    Despite all your kind comments and opinions, I am still torn between choosing. I want to lean towards #2 but once the track is down on the base board, I'm concerned it may look too crowded. Or it may not! I might remove one of the top "dead-end" sidings in the factory/loading dock area.

    I have been stewing over the plan for months, trying to get it looking prototypically and operationally correct. Taking out the element of compression factor of the track plan, would either version remotely resemble an prototypical operation? Does it really matter in the end?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Redesford View Post
    ... Taking out the element of compression factor of the track plan, would either version remotely resemble an prototypical operation? Does it really matter in the end?
    No it doesn't! It is all about what will make you happy! You have to make the decision!

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    Just a quick check...

    When people are voting for "#1" or "#2" are you indicating the one that is actually labeled "Version 1" or "Version 2", or are you indicating the first or second one in the sequence of thumbnails...

    Just wondering, since they are uploaded in reverse order...

    As for the "prototypical-ness", I think either one is as prototypical as you're going to get on a layout this size.
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    Absolutely beautiful woodworking! I think at this point you have to go visual. If you haven't purchased all the turnouts yet, lay a left and right on the copy machine and make some templates. Lay out your structures and templates and push 'em around. Everything will become clear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TwinDad View Post
    Just a quick check...

    When people are voting for "#1" or "#2" are you indicating the one that is actually labeled "Version 1" or "Version 2", or are you indicating the first or second one in the sequence of thumbnails...

    Just wondering, since they are uploaded in reverse order...
    Nice catch TD. I like Version 1 or the second sketch. (That's what I meant by #2...).

    A little clarification is always helpful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PigInZen View Post
    Nice catch TD. I like Version 1 or the second sketch. (That's what I meant by #2...).

    A little clarification is always helpful.

    Phil
    Yes, that's the one I liked as well. The one to the right, be it first or second!

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    I am in favor of the one on the right as well. I need to do some converting of sizes here...

    Ok roughly 27.5"x78.5".

    Let me go back and look again real quick, I need to take a mental picture.

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    Ok I'm still in favor of the one on the right. The left drawing you have longer sidings, which I don't think will be that long in reality. With the plan on the right, you may have to shorten sidings a tad but it won't be as much of a change.

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