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    These look nice, but Joe says they don't mate with ANYTHING currently on the market. Could be they're downfall.

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    Default Update 15:

    More:
    N-Scale Freight Car / Passenger Car / Caboose Trucks:

    Fox Valley Models -> Caboose and Passenger car Trucks

    Update:
    N-Scale Knuckle Coupler Names:

    Fox Valley Models ([STRIKETHROUGH]Red Caboose[/STRIKETHROUGH]) -> Static Coupler ([STRIKETHROUGH]Unimate[/STRIKETHROUGH])

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    Default Trucks, (Metal) Wheel Sets, Couplers. A Little Info

    N-Scale Freight Car / Passenger Car / Caboose Trucks:
    Info on trucks -> http://www.spookshow.net/trucks/trucks.php
    Micro Trains -> Many Different Styles
    Atlas ([STRIKETHROUGH]BLMA[/STRIKETHROUGH]) -> 70 Ton / 100 Ton (Great for lowering ride height without the need to modify bolsters)
    Atlas ([STRIKETHROUGH]BLMA[/STRIKETHROUGH]) -> 70 Ton Friction Bearing Trucks (Great for lowering ride height without the need to modify bolsters)
    Atlas -> Different Styles (The Atlas 100 Ton truck also lowers ride height without the need to modify bolsters)
    Intermountain Railway Co. -> A Few
    KATO -> A Few (Select a freight car under "N-Scale Products" to look up trucks)
    RAPIDO TRAINS INC. -> 41-BNO-11 / 41-N-11
    WHEELS OF TIME -> 6 Wheel Heavyweight Drop-Equalizer Passenger Truck
    CON-COR -> Many Different Styles
    Fox Valley Models -> Caboose and Passenger car Trucks

    Freight Car Trucks Friction Bearing:
    Banned from interchange service in:
    01-01-1991 for cars carrying hazardous materials.
    01-01-1994 for cars carrying non-hazardous materials.
    01-01-1995 for cars with trucks that were converted from friction to roller bearing side frames (Hot Box detectors could not detect them if / when they overheated).

    Freight Cars & Truck Sizes, What Size To Use?
    I found a post on The Railwire about 70 Ton and 100 Ton trucks and how to look up which truck to use under your rolling stock, read reply #12 -> Link Broken
    Post from "Hyperion" on The Railwire:
    The rating of a truck refers to the capacity of the load the car is allowed to carry, and it is actually an estimate at best.Today, a "100T" truck can carry a 286,000lb total load inclusive of the car weight (i.e. gross rail weight) (263K prior to, I believe, 1994). A "70T" truck car carry a 220,000lb total weight inclusive of the car.So rather than looking at the capacity, look at the total gross weight (add light/tare weight to the capacity) and see if its' less than 220K or 286K, that will determine the truck size used.

    Also have a look here (post #2 from MrMRL and post #5 from RioGrandeFan) -> http://www.trainorders.com/discussion/read.php?3,3141507

    Freight Car Trucks and Wheel Diameters:
    50 Ton Trucks ride on 33" Wheels
    70 Ton Trucks ride on 33" Wheels
    100 Ton Trucks ride on 36" Wheels
    125 Ton Trucks ride on 38" Wheels
    NOTE: Freight Car Trucks and Wheelset Diameters are meant as a rule of thumb, there can be variations to this in the 1:1 scale world thus also in the 1:160 scale world.

    N-Scale Wheel Diameter Conversions:
    .175" (4,45mm) = 28" Wheels
    .188" (4,76mm) = 30" Wheels
    .206" (5,24mm) = 33" Wheels
    .225" (5,72mm) = 36" Wheels
    .238" (6,03mm) = 38" Wheels

    N-Scale (Metal) Wheelsets:
    *Axle Lengths:
    .537" (13.64 mm) -> Atlas ([STRIKETHROUGH]BLMA[/STRIKETHROUGH])
    .540" (13.72 mm) -> Micro Trains & Fox Valley Models
    .5445" (13.83 mm) -> Athearn
    .545" (13.84 mm) -> Walthers
    .549" (13.94 mm) -> Roundhouse & Lima & Rivarossi
    .553" (14.05 mm) -> Intermountain & Atlas(recent) Trucks
    .560" (14.22 mm) -> Bachmann
    .563" (14.30 mm) -> Con-Cor & Kato & Atlas(old) Trucks
    .567" (14.40 mm) -> Model Power
    .568" (14.43 mm) -> used under the Atlas 20,700 gal tank car
    .573" (14.55 mm) -> Arnold-Rapido
    .576" (14.63 mm) -> ??

    *N-Scale (Metal) Wheelsets Manufacturers:
    Fox Valley Models -> 28" , 33" and 36" Metal Wheelsets (Fine and Wide Tread and Resistance Wheelsets for train detection, signaling etc.)
    Intermountain Railway Co. -> 33" and 36" (Metal) Wheelsets
    Intermountain Railway Co. -> High Detail Brass Isolated 33" and 36" Wheelsets
    Intermountain Railway Co. -> High Detail Brass Isolated (diameter?) Wheelsets to fit Micro Trains Trucks
    NorthWest Short Line -> Metal Wheelsets (Detectable Metal Wheel Sets used for train detection, signaling etc.)
    Micro Trains -> 33" & 36" Wheelsets (High and Standard profile-flange / black and brown colour)
    Atlas ([STRIKETHROUGH]BLMA[/STRIKETHROUGH]) -----> 33" and 36" Metal Wheelsets (Axle length is .537" (13.64 mm))
    ExactRail -> 33" and 36" Metal Wheelsets (Axle length is .538" (13.67 mm))
    Athearn --> 33" and 36" Metal Wheelsets (Axle length is .5445" (13.83 mm))
    CON-COR -> Metal Wheelsets (diameter?)

    *N-Scale Pizza Cutters:
    Have a look at MooseID's post "What are 'Pizza Cutters'". -> http://www.nscale.net/forums/showthr...-Pizza-Cutters

    N-Scale Knuckle Coupler Names:
    Additional Information -> http://www.nscaledivision.com/inform...n_couplers.htm
    *Current:
    Micro Trains ---> Magne-Matic / True-Scale Coupler
    Athearn --------> McHenry (Info: McHenry Couplers and Athearn are members of Horizon Hobby)
    KATO ----------> Semi Automatic / Kinematic (used on the “Morning Daylight”)
    Atlas -----------> Accumate (Info: Couplers are manufactured by Atlas under license from AccuRail, Inc.)
    Bachmann -----> Dummy knuckle coupler / E-Z Mate Mark II Coupler
    Con-Cor -------> Rigid Jaw Coupler
    Fox Valley Models ([STRIKETHROUGH]Red Caboose[/STRIKETHROUGH]) -> Static Coupler ([STRIKETHROUGH]Unimate[/STRIKETHROUGH])
    NZT Products -> ProtoMate (coming in ????)

    *Older, Other, Discontinued:
    Intermountain Railway Co. -> ??
    The Rapido Coupler -> http://www.nscaledivision.com/inform...n_couplers.htm
    Model Power -> name not known, was a dummy coupler

    (N-Scale) Knuckle Coupler Height(s):
    *1:1 Scale Knuckle Coupler Heights (top of rail to middle of coupler)
    Source -> http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/40...scription.html
    Empty cars -> min 32 1/2" max 34 1/2"
    Loaded cars-> min 31 1/2" max 33 1/2"
    *N-scale (x/160)
    Empty cars -> min 0.203" max 0.216" (5,2mm / 5,5mm)
    Loaded cars-> min 0.197" max 0.209" (5,0mm / 5,3mm)
    *N-Scale Standard Knuckle Coupler Height (top of rail to middle of coupler)
    0.216" (5,5mm)
    Last edited by DrifterNL; 13th Mar 2017 at 10:36 AM. Reason: Updated Info.

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    Thanks for the update! (And all the hard work that went into it.)
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    Thanks for re posting and keeping this stuff current.
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    Default Trucks, (Metal) Wheel Sets, Couplers. A Little Info

    N-Scale Freight Car / Passenger Car / Caboose Trucks:
    Info on trucks -> http://www.spookshow.net/trucks/trucks.php
    Micro Trains -> Many Different Styles
    Atlas (BLMA) -> 70 Ton / 100 Ton (Great for lowering ride height without the need to modify bolsters)
    Atlas (BLMA) -> 70 Ton Friction Bearing Trucks (Great for lowering ride height without the need to modify bolsters)
    Atlas -> Different Styles (The Atlas 100 Ton truck also lowers ride height without the need to modify bolsters)
    Intermountain Railway Co. -> A Few
    KATO -> A Few (Select a freight car under "N-Scale Products" to look up trucks)
    RAPIDO TRAINS INC. -> 41-BNO-11 / 41-N-11
    WHEELS OF TIME -> 6 Wheel Heavyweight Drop-Equalizer Passenger Truck
    CON-COR -> Many Different Styles
    Fox Valley Models -> Caboose and Passenger car Trucks

    Freight Car Trucks Friction Bearing:
    Banned from interchange service in:
    01-01-1991 for cars carrying hazardous materials.
    01-01-1994 for cars carrying non-hazardous materials.
    01-01-1995 for cars with trucks that were converted from friction to roller bearing side frames (Hot Box detectors could not detect them if / when they overheated).

    Freight Cars & Truck Sizes, What Size To Use?
    I found a post on The Railwire about 70 Ton and 100 Ton trucks and how to look up which truck to use under your rolling stock, read reply #12 -> Link Broken
    Post from "Hyperion" on The Railwire:
    The rating of a truck refers to the capacity of the load the car is allowed to carry, and it is actually an estimate at best.Today, a "100T" truck can carry a 286,000lb total load inclusive of the car weight (i.e. gross rail weight) (263K prior to, I believe, 1994). A "70T" truck car carry a 220,000lb total weight inclusive of the car.So rather than looking at the capacity, look at the total gross weight (add light/tare weight to the capacity) and see if its' less than 220K or 286K, that will determine the truck size used.

    Also have a look here (post #2 from MrMRL and post #5 from RioGrandeFan) -> http://www.trainorders.com/discussion/read.php?3,3141507

    Freight Car Trucks and Wheel Diameters:
    50 Ton Trucks ride on 33" Wheels
    70 Ton Trucks ride on 33" Wheels
    100 Ton Trucks ride on 36" Wheels
    125 Ton Trucks ride on 38" Wheels
    NOTE: Freight Car Trucks and Wheelset Diameters are meant as a rule of thumb, there can be variations to this in the 1:1 scale world thus also in the 1:160 scale world.

    N-Scale Wheel Diameter Conversions:
    .175" (4,45mm) = 28" Wheels
    .188" (4,76mm) = 30" Wheels
    .206" (5,24mm) = 33" Wheels
    .225" (5,72mm) = 36" Wheels
    .238" (6,03mm) = 38" Wheels

    N-Scale (Metal) Wheelsets:
    *Axle Lengths:
    .537" (13.64 mm) -> Atlas (BLMA)
    .540" (13.72 mm) -> Micro Trains & Fox Valley Models & ExactRail
    .5445" (13.83 mm) -> Athearn
    .545" (13.84 mm) -> Walthers
    .549" (13.94 mm) -> Roundhouse & Lima & Rivarossi
    .553" (14.05 mm) -> Intermountain & Atlas(recent) Trucks
    .560" (14.22 mm) -> Bachmann
    .563" (14.30 mm) -> Con-Cor & Kato & Atlas(old) Trucks
    .567" (14.40 mm) -> Model Power
    .568" (14.43 mm) -> used under the Atlas 20,700 gal tank car
    .573" (14.55 mm) -> Arnold-Rapido
    .576" (14.63 mm) -> ??

    *N-Scale (Metal) Wheelsets Manufacturers:
    Fox Valley Models -> 28" , 33" and 36" Metal Wheelsets (Fine and Wide Tread and Resistance Wheelsets for train detection, signaling etc.)
    Intermountain Railway Co. -> 33" and 36" (Metal) Wheelsets
    Intermountain Railway Co. -> High Detail Brass Isolated 33" and 36" Wheelsets
    Intermountain Railway Co. -> High Detail Brass Isolated (diameter?) Wheelsets to fit Micro Trains Trucks
    NorthWest Short Line -> Metal Wheelsets (Detectable Metal Wheel Sets used for train detection, signaling etc.)
    Micro Trains -> 33" & 36" Wheelsets (High and Standard profile-flange / black and brown colour)
    Atlas (BLMA) -----> 33" and 36" Metal Wheelsets (Axle length is .537" (13.64 mm))
    ExactRail -> 33" and 36" Metal Wheelsets (Axle length is .540" (13.72 mm))
    Athearn --> 33" and 36" Metal Wheelsets (Axle length is .5445" (13.83 mm))
    CON-COR -> Metal Wheelsets (diameter?)

    *N-Scale Pizza Cutters:
    Have a look at MooseID's post "What are 'Pizza Cutters'". -> http://www.nscale.net/forums/showthr...-Pizza-Cutters

    N-Scale Knuckle Coupler Names:
    Additional Information -> http://www.nscaledivision.com/inform...n_couplers.htm
    *Current:
    Micro Trains ---> Magne-Matic / True-Scale Coupler
    Athearn --------> McHenry (Info: McHenry Couplers and Athearn are members of Horizon Hobby)
    KATO ----------> Semi Automatic / Kinematic (used on the “Morning Daylight”)
    Atlas -----------> Accumate (Info: Couplers are manufactured by Atlas under license from AccuRail, Inc.)
    Bachmann -----> Dummy knuckle coupler / E-Z Mate Mark II Coupler
    Con-Cor -------> Rigid Jaw Coupler
    Fox Valley Models (Red Caboose) -> Static Coupler (Unimate)
    NZT Products -> ProtoMate (coming in ????)

    *Older, Other, Discontinued:
    Intermountain Railway Co. -> ??
    The Rapido Coupler -> http://www.nscaledivision.com/inform...n_couplers.htm
    Model Power -> name not known, was a dummy coupler

    (N-Scale) Knuckle Coupler Height(s):
    *1:1 Scale Knuckle Coupler Heights (top of rail to middle of coupler)
    Source -> http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/40...scription.html
    Empty cars -> min 32 1/2" max 34 1/2"
    Loaded cars-> min 31 1/2" max 33 1/2"
    *N-scale (x/160)
    Empty cars -> min 0.203" max 0.216" (5,2mm / 5,5mm)
    Loaded cars-> min 0.197" max 0.209" (5,0mm / 5,3mm)
    *N-Scale Standard Knuckle Coupler Height (top of rail to middle of coupler)
    0.216" (5,5mm)
    Last edited by DrifterNL; 9th Dec 2017 at 12:01 PM. Reason: Corrected / Updated Info

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    New member here, just building up posts. What a ton of great information, especially helpful for someone like myself - casual HO guy looking to go serious N.
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    More:
    N-Scale (Metal) Wheelsets:

    Rapido Trains Inc. 33" and 36" Metal Wheelsets (13.72mm / .540" axle).

    From the website:

    Wheelset Features:

    • Accurate turned metal construction
    • Insulated on one side
    • Blackened
    • Non-magnetic
    • RP-25 flanges
    • 33″ and 36” sizes available

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    Default Update 17:

    More:
    N-Scale Knuckle Coupler Names:

    NZT Products -> ProtoMate (coming in ????)

    From the website:

    Dear friends, it is with a very heavy heart that I must close down NZT Products.
    I am faced with a combination of health and personal issues that prevent me from continuing to work.
    Thank you all for your enthusiastic support up to now. It has been genuinely fun and rewarding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrifterNL View Post
    More:
    N-Scale Knuckle Coupler Names:

    NZT Products -> ProtoMate (coming in ????)

    From the website:

    Dear friends, it is with a very heavy heart that I must close down NZT Products.
    I am faced with a combination of health and personal issues that prevent me from continuing to work.
    Thank you all for your enthusiastic support up to now. It has been genuinely fun and rewarding.
    You are kinda late to the party with this one.... This happened a couple years back.

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    Tangent has 36” metal wheels available now. They come in a .537” axle length and have a realistic rear profile.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StrasburgNut View Post
    You are kinda late to the party with this one.... This happened a couple years back.
    As are you...
    From my original post from May, 2010 -> "*See a error or have something to add? let me know (post)!*"

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrifterNL View Post
    As are you...
    From my original post from May, 2010 -> "*See a error or have something to add? let me know (post)!*"
    Then why did you re-post it yesterday as if it just happened? :rofl:

    No worries, it makes sense

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