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    It depends on the chemical composition of it.
    I'll look on the Amazon site and see what it says. I sent the company an email but I'm not expecting a reply.
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    This is what it say's on the tube:

    Cheers Tony

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    The stuff I used is the 2-ounce white container with a screw-on lid. 2 ounces is enough to treat 50 average-sized layouts.

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    That's what I was concerned about Tony. Weather it's able to be shipped by mail, particularly by air. There is restrictions on such things but in that case Amazon shouldn't advertise it internationally.
    Anyway, I ordered the 8oz. tube so I'll see what happens.
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    Russ,

    The 8 oz tube is what I bought ... heck, I could have squirted half of it into a jar and sent you the other half
    Cheers Tony

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    Quote Originally Posted by wombat457 View Post
    The 8 oz tube is what I bought ... heck, I could have squirted half of it into a jar and sent you the other half
    LOl, well it's on it's way, so far so good. Stay tuned for further developments
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    Quote Originally Posted by mosslake View Post
    LOl, well it's on it's way, so far so good. Stay tuned for further developments
    It arrived yesterday morning, which is a surprise in itself, delivered on a Saturday. I was also expecting a toothpaste sized tube.....wow!!
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    @mosslake

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    Quote Originally Posted by mosslake View Post
    I was also expecting a toothpaste sized tube.....wow!!
    You have a several-lifetime supply of No-Ox. Hand it down to your descendants!

    And remember the advice from gary60s in the first post of this thread:

    The total amount of NO-OX-ID ďA SPECIALĒ that should be applied to 500í of N scale track is about ľ teaspoon.

    It might be slightly more for HO, but the message is that it doesn't take much. Just follow the instructions in Post #1.

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    This is very important advice to follow. Donít let your mind trick you into applying more just because you canít see it. On my last layout I put on NO-OX way to heavy and it then took 3 Kato AC4400 engines to pull 8 cars up a 4% grade.
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    Don't forget to remove locos with traction tires until after you have run the layout and wiped away the excess. It will cause the traction tires to expand and they will never return to proper fit on the wheels. I left mine off the layout until the wheel slip went away.

    I used No-Ox on my garage layout for about ten years with great success. Vacuuming or dusting off the rails/layout was all that was really needed. Frequebt running helped the most but it sure was nice to just walk out flick on the power and run trains.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moose2013 View Post
    @mosslake

    Annnd, a photo?
    It's coming, it's coming......


    Quote Originally Posted by African Pirate View Post
    This is very important advice to follow. Don’t let your mind trick you into applying more just because you can’t see it. On my last layout I put on NO-OX way to heavy and it then took 3 Kato AC4400 engines to pull 8 cars up a 4% grade.
    Yep, I've read post 1 a few times and I'm going to save much of it for future reference...



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    It will cause the traction tires to expand and they will never return to proper fit on the wheels. I left mine off the layout until the wheel slip went away.
    Ok. Reading the part about lifting the traction tyres off the stuff made me wonder what effect it had. Good to know.
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    I looked back in this old thread and see that some are using a bright boy to prepare the rails. I suggest you toss the bright boy and move to a fine sanding sponge/block then follow up with a almost polishing sponge/block (600 grit or better). Part of our problem is the scratches and grooves in our rails that hold onto the atmospheric gunk and cause the biggest problems. In fact I used the gleam method to prepare my code 80 Peco turnouts with Atlas flextrack. I did not have a microscope but would bet the last burnishing step helped create a glass like smooth surface that was less likely to hold the gunk. So do the prep to help the process.

    I have yet to try graphite on the rails so cannot speak to any results.
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    Graphite works great. Just make sure the power is off or plan for a hot time. Just need a little in an area then run an engine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jhn_plsn View Post
    Don't forget to remove locos with traction tires until after you have run the layout and wiped away the excess.
    GLAD you mentioned that! Every last one of my engines and trains have traction tires. And here I was considering trying that No-Ox! Maybe I'll just stick with CRC contact cleaner (not the lube). Thanks, John!
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    Quote Originally Posted by el Gato Gordo View Post
    Originally Posted by jhn_plsn
    Don't forget to remove locos with traction tires until after you have run the layout and wiped away the excess.
    GLAD you mentioned that! Every last one of my engines and trains have traction tires. And here I was considering trying that No-Ox! Maybe I'll just stick with CRC contact cleaner (not the lube). Thanks, John!
    But the traction tyre thing only applies until it's wiped off and 24 hours have elapsed doesn't it? It's not a permanant issue?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jhn_plsn View Post
    Don't forget to remove locos with traction tires until after you have run the layout and wiped away the excess. It will cause the traction tires to expand and they will never return to proper fit on the wheels. I left mine off the layout until the wheel slip went away.
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    Thanks @Moose2013, but I particularly notice the words "until after you have run the layout...." I don't want to buy a Lok without traction tires just for this function.
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    Quote Originally Posted by el Gato Gordo View Post
    Thanks @Moose2013, but I particularly notice the words "until after you have run the layout...." I don't want to buy a Lok without traction tires just for this function.
    Hmmm, Moose just assuming that you have a locomotive that doesn't have traction tires which you could run until you're certain that there's no No Ox residue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by el Gato Gordo View Post
    Thanks @Moose2013, but I particularly notice the words "until after you have run the layout...." I don't want to buy a Lok without traction tires just for this function.
    Gordon, I would think once you allowed the NoOx to dry a bit after you wiped off the excess you would be good to go. That said I cannot say with confidence that some evaporation and clean up time would reduce the risk to traction tires. I have run my Kato GS4 a couple weeks after application with no issue.

    Hope this help clear up expectations.
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