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    Quote Originally Posted by pwh70 View Post
    had good results for about 15 minutes -
    That's peculiar. I just use alcohol and only hand clean track a couple of times a year, though I do run a track cleaning consist (LUX & CMX) before shows. I have one yard-long tunnel that I have never cleaned and have no issues.

    I wonder if brand of track makes a difference? I have Peco code 80 on my mainline and Fleischmann Piccolo track for my branch line.
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    Quote Originally Posted by el Gato Gordo View Post
    That's peculiar. I just use alcohol and only hand clean track a couple of times a year, though I do run a track cleaning consist (LUX & CMX) before shows. I have one yard-long tunnel that I have never cleaned and have no issues.

    I wonder if brand of track makes a difference? I have Peco code 80 on my mainline and Fleischmann Piccolo track for my branch line.
    Maybe brand, but i wonder if a lot of it has to do with environment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zosimas View Post
    Maybe brand, but i wonder if a lot of it has to do with environment.
    I think that's a HUGE part of the reason for different experiences.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zosimas View Post
    Maybe brand, but i wonder if a lot of it has to do with environment.
    Although I am "in the basement" as well, it's a fairly clean(?), controlled space.
    Maybe "clean" is the wrong word to use, but temp controlled, dehumidified, etc.

    ok... "clean" is definitely the wrong word to use, but I digress.

    Quote Originally Posted by el Gato Gordo View Post
    I wonder if brand of track makes a difference? I have Peco code 80 on my mainline and Fleischmann Piccolo track for my branch line.
    Mine is Atlas Code 55 turnouts, with ME flextrack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingmeow View Post
    I think that's a HUGE part of the reason for different experiences.
    True. In Colorado we have an arid climate. Humidity is seldom above 60% for more than a couple of hours in the morning or half a dozen days a year. Usually the humidity is below 25%.

    My layout is in my woodshop out in the barn, which is dirty, dusty, not airtight, and not climate controlled. Temperature range is about 110° between January and July. Except when actually engaged in running trains or working on the layout, I keep a dust cover over it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by el Gato Gordo View Post
    T, I keep a dust cover over it.
    When i start building again, I am definitely going to be covering it.

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    Haven't run the Slate Fork since last Sunday, after I had cleaned the locos' wheels using white spirits rather than rubbing alcohol. The track had been treated with No-Ox years ago, and I wipe trouble areas with a graphite stick.

    Today I ran the turn around the layout while I was working on a project at the work bench. Everything performed flawlessly. I believe non-polar white spirits rather than polar rubbing alcohol makes the difference.

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    ok, looking for help on places to buy No-Ox-ID-A-Special
    (particularly from fellow Canadians here)

    Looking on Ebay, prices range from 10$ to 25$CAD, but, everyone is asking for 30$-50$CAD for the shippping.
    And for Amazon.... They want 55$CAD for a 2oz jar. LIKE, WT%!

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    From reading this thread, it's something I want to try.... But, my budget doesn't from TOWMBO doesn't allow this kind of expense.
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    Lifetime supply; yah, it's a huge tube! https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1 Not sure about Canada, though.
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    WOW! Prices like that would compel a railroader to continue using alcohol. Glenfiddich, in my case.
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    Quote Originally Posted by drbnc View Post
    Lifetime supply; yah, it's a huge tube! https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1 Not sure about Canada, though.

    Looked awesome. But, shipping for the item is 23$USD, Plus 29$ for import duties. Sigh. so, 17$ for the item, and 52$ to send it. Convert that over to CAD, and Im looking at 92$

    DrB, Thanks for the link... But, need to keep looking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by el Gato Gordo View Post
    WOW! Prices like that would compel a railroader to continue using alcohol. Glenfiddich, in my case.
    Yeah, that and stainless steel washer polishing.
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    Fired up the Slate Fork again yesterday, and no stutters, stalls or flickering. So, I'm pretty well sold that rubbing alcohol's polar quality was counteracting all the good which the initial No-Ox treatment and graphite swipes were providing.

    Since cleaning the locomotives' wheels two weeks ago with non-polar white spirits, performance has been extraordinarily good. I expect that to become commonplace.

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    That's good to know Paul!
    Thanks for the update.

    I plan to run a mini Ops with a buddy who wants to get a hands on experience.
    I told him I'd get the Malvern section cleaned off and readied (if not the whole layout).

    So I'll go ahead and clean my tracks using the WD-40 Contact Cleaner I picked up a few weeks ago and see how well that works compared to your White Spirits.
    When I'm done with the WD-40 CC I'll give the graphite a few wipes here and there.

    Then I'll report back....
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    Has anyone tried Gamsol mineral spirits? It’s sold for artists and advantage is that its odorless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Schmidt View Post
    Fired up the Slate Fork again yesterday, and no stutters, stalls or flickering. So, I'm pretty well sold that rubbing alcohol's polar quality was counteracting all the good which the initial No-Ox treatment and graphite swipes were providing.

    Since cleaning the locomotives' wheels two weeks ago with non-polar white spirits, performance has been extraordinarily good. I expect that to become commonplace.
    I have to ask , maybe i missed it somewhere in this thread . But wouldn't alcohol or white spirits or any othe kind of cleaner , wiped over the rails , wouldn't that remove the NO OX ? Alcohol and white spirits would definitely remove any grease like substance so wouldn't it remove this ? Way i figure it right now , is the rails dont have it on them anymore , and it just clean rails and graphite . Please correct me if im wrong

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Schmidt View Post
    , stalls or flickering. So, I'm pretty well sold that rubbing alcohol's polar quality was counteracting all the good which the initial No-Ox treatment and graphite swipes were providing.

    e.
    maybe this was my problem as well.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by danb View Post
    Has anyone tried Gamsol mineral spirits? It’s sold for artists and advantage is that its odorless.
    I would imagine that Gamsol is nothing more than a brand name and that you're paying extra for that name in a fancy labeled bottle which is sold at art stores.
    It may be a little bit better for cleaning brushes and thinning art paint, maybe more pure? But for just wiping down the rails, a plain label should work just as good.
    Any of the big box stores and local hardware stores should carry the oderless versions as well at a much cheaper rate?

    Amazon 4.5 oz bottle for $11.95

    https://www.amazon.com/Gamblin-Gamso...59648629&psc=1

    Home Dumpo 32 oz for $7.95


    https://www.homedepot.com/p/Klean-St...4005/100251041

    Wally World 32 oz $6.77

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    Quote Originally Posted by aflica View Post
    or white spirits or any othe kind of cleaner , wiped over the rails , wouldn't that remove the NO OX ?
    No-Ox, and I'm referring to the first post in this thread, properly applied penetrates a metallic surface to help prevent oxidation. All traces of No-Ox are wiped off the surface of the rail after the application/distribution process. No traces of No-Ox remain on the railhead.

    And I'm using white spirits to clean the wheels, not the rails. The wheels are dry before they go back on the track.

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