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    Week four since abandoning isopropyl rubbing alcohol in favor of mineral spirits for cleaning wheels. The Slate Fork is humming along, no stalls, stutters or stops.

    While working last night on installing a new coupler on one of the Geep 38s, I inspected the wheels to see if any crud might be building up -- nope, clean as a whistle.

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    I ran a train for the first time in a month in preparation for hosting a layout tour last weekend and everything was fine. Even Mr. Murphy behaved.
    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Schmidt View Post
    I inspected the wheels to see if any crud might be building up -- nope, clean as a whistle.
    I ran my finger a yard down a rail and got a black stripe. Apparently it doesn't matter.

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    Amazing. Applied No-Ox about six weeks ago. Then, I was out of town for three weeks, layout gathering dust in the garage. Wiped down the rails with a dry paper towel without any solvent. There was a black trace on the towel afterwards. However, locos ran perfectly without stalling. Even my hyper-sensitive-to-dirt Intermountain cab forward ran well. Another No-Ox success story!

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    Still amazed. Went into the train room after two months of inactivity and ran a train around the layout without touching anything. No problems whatsoever. In the past (pre no-ox) the train would have stalled every few feet until I spent a few hours cleaning the track and the loco wheels.

    I do have to clean the cobwebs off the front of the loco though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NtheBasement View Post
    I do have to clean the cobwebs off the front of the loco though.
    Just ask yourself, what would Gomez Addams do?
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    I have to ask ... you guys talk about this "No Ox" and it evidently works pretty well from what you have been saying. Sooo, what is this stuff and how do you use it? If you can leave a layout idle for a few months and run trains without an issue, especially DCC then I may have to invest in it I think.

    Okay, just went back and read the first post re this stuff AND have ordered an 8 oz tube of it. Hope it works as well as every one has said it does
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    Quote Originally Posted by wombat457 View Post
    Okay, just went back and read the first post re this stuff AND have ordered an 8 oz tube of it. Hope it works as well as every one has said it does
    If you follow the directions in the first post, Tony, especially the part about using No-Ox ever so sparingly, it works wonders.

    I've also begun cleaning my locomotive wheels with mineral spirits/white spirits rather than with rubbing alcohol. That was the final piece in the puzzle for me. Seems the alcohol was acting as an attractant for black oxide gunk on the wheels, but not on the rails.

    Since I switched to mineral spirits, I haven't had a serious clean-track issue in months now.
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    Paul,

    When I have a usable layout I've been using acetone for cleaning my track and wheels for quite awhile and your right, it does work better than alcohol and seems to last longer. From everything I have read this No-Ox makes things even better and yep, I noted the "use sparingly" bit of the first post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wombat457 View Post
    No-Ox makes things even better and yep, I noted the "use sparingly" bit of the first post.
    It also makes a fine pork roast rub. Not!

    Yeah, you were way ahead of most of us on wheel-cleaning solution, Tony. MRH had a story a couple months back which pointed the way for me. Seems rubbing alcohol was never a good idea.
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    Paul,

    I only started using Acetone when I bought my first HO CMX Car, however long ago that was. I figured it was pointless to have two products to do basically the same thing especially when the Acetone seemed to work better on the track and the CMX was able to use it. Bear in mind though, I change out all of my wheel sets for metal wheels so I'm not too sure how using Acetone on plastic wheels would go?
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    Quote Originally Posted by wombat457 View Post
    Bear in mind though, I change out all of my wheel sets for metal wheels so I'm not too sure how using Acetone on plastic wheels would go?
    Not good, I would imagine, Tony! I use metal wheels exclusively too.
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    Can't seem to find NO-OX ID available in Australia. I'd order some but don't know if it'd make it through Customs.
    What's best, the tube or the pot of stuff?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mosslake View Post
    What's best, the tube or the pot of stuff?
    Hi Russ -

    The small pot contains more of the product than you will ever need, unless your layout is gigantic. I notice that NO-OX is sold by Amazon.au, if that is any help to you:
    https://www.amazon.com.au/NO-OX-ID-T.../dp/B00HSW341A

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    Quote Originally Posted by jdetray View Post
    notice that NO-OX is sold by Amazon.au, if that is any help to you
    Thanks Jeff, I didn't think to search Amazon. The tube looks to be a good deal....
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    Opps....Just noticed the blue text which says the product shipps from outside Australia....
    Might still try it, Amazon lists it so I should get a refund if it's not delivered.
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    Russ,

    I bought a tube of the stuff a little while ago and tried it (tested it) on a small length of track which was left to sit. I used the stuff as per the directions on the tube and, after something like 6 or so weeks, the track is still "clean" (not withstanding dust) and has remained much cleaner than when I used 91% alcohol only. Does it work as well as claimed? I can't say at this point; however, it DOES seem to improve electrical conductivity if nothing else.

    Regardless of how it works though, the track still needs to be "cleaned periodically" to remove dust and so forth that inevitably will get on it. The only thing I think about is the effect on the No-Ox when you do have to remove dust etc, does it also remove the No-Ox?

    PS: When they say only use a VERY SMALL AMOUNT, that is a fact. Only smear the stuff on very lightly and a tube will last a lifetime
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    Thanks Tony. I'm keen to try this stuff. Was also thinking of the Tomix track cleaner for vacuuming track and one of those computer keyboard vacs.
    It's still the matter of it getting through Customs though...
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    Russ,

    Customs could be an issue when it comes to the No-Ox. Did you check out the Amazon link to avoid any possible issues?

    Here are a few more places i Oz to look at:

    https://www.u-buy.com.au/brand/no-ox-id?q=no-ox-id

    http://winequip.com.au/products/yeas...ng-agent/noox/
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    Quote Originally Posted by wombat457 View Post
    Russ,

    Customs could be an issue when it comes to the No-Ox.
    What would be the issue with customs? I'm about to head to the US and was thinking of picking some up while I'm there.

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    Having a "Lubricant" shipped in from the US could (?) cause Customs to have an issue, depending on how picky they were. You would be advised to check to see if No-Ox, being a lubricant, can be brought into Oz. Not sure how the airlines will feel about it either.
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