17th Aug 2010, 09:58 AM
Retro Photography - F I L M!
Remember film? It's disappearing from the stores. Some Wal-Marts don't even process film now days.
Because of all the advantages of digital, I sold my Nikon and Olympus SLR film cameras several years ago.
Maybe this is short term, but occasionally, I'm missing the subjective part of film. Trot over to Ebay, choose your favorite film camera, and click on the completed listings. Almost all the SLR film cameras are less than $50. Hey, these were nice cameras...good for rail-fanning and landscape scenic trips. Very usable for mrr layouts too.
Also, film cameras are full-frame. The recent lenses will fit your FX, or prepare your way for an FX camera.
Is there a place in your high tech world for film?
17th Aug 2010, 10:28 AM
I used a film body along side my DSLR body for a while. I finally sold it on e-bay, and the reasons had nothing to do with the quality of the pictures.
1) With digital I can look at the image immediately and see if I got the shot or not, and try again if I didn't. With film it's waiting until it's processed to know if you got it or not.
2) Digital is cheaper in the long run. I've taken 5,000+ photos with my DSLR, at $0.20 per film frame that's over $1000 in film processing costs I have saved! Since most of the photos go online anyway, I print very few making the savings very real.
3) I can take more photos. Be it cost, or photos per roll (compared to photos per memory card), or space in my bag to store spare film and memory cards I was always running out of film, but can take days of pictures on a memory card and still have room left over. I helped cover a wedding once and did 1200 photos in a weekend, all on two memory cards! Think of how many rolls of film!
I suspect these are the reasons E-Bay is flooded with $50 SLR's, like mine a few years ago.
17th Aug 2010, 11:05 AM
Yep, those are the reasons I sold my film SLR's.
Those are also the reasons populated by mass marketing so that we can buy the FX camera that Photikina is coming out with for $2000. Mass marketing (albeit improvement) is also the reason we dispose of $500 to ++$1000 digital cameras every few years. Same with the ink cartridges in our printers which cost about $40 or more to replace, and seem to run out each month, even if we don't print 200 sheets on special bond and texture-finished paper. Some Epsons die if only one cartridge is out, and will not print with black alone.
I agree, that in the retro-days, we did wait an hour on our film to be process, and later walked away while opening the envelope to see how they turned out.
Also agreed that our DSLR can crank out like a machine gun at 3fps and our next DSLR we purchase will do 30 fps. Shucks, that will be 3600 photos on one 500TB memory card and a months of shooting on 1,500,000TB hard drive.
A walk down nostalgia-lane brings back drafting tables, pencils and paper, and all the things that no longer have meaning to many people. I cought myself buying some wooden pencils the other day, and a crank-operated sharpener to go along with it!
I suspect these are the reasons E-bay is flooded with $50 SLR's, like mine a few years ago.
17th Aug 2010, 12:54 PM
A lot of photographers have been on the DSLR "treadmill" for a few years, ditching a $1000-$2000 camera every 3-4 years, however I see that slowing down. Depending on how you measure (because there are multiple types of film and multiple things you can measure) somewhere between 5MP and 24MP is the resolution of 35MM film. When we went from 1-3-7MP cameras there were huge leaps forward. Now someone moves from a 12MP to a 15MP and wonders what changed. I see people holding onto 10MP cameras MUCH longer.
Indeed, both myself and my wife have been on 9MP digicams for the pocket camera for like 5 years now. My new phone has a 5MP camera that takes almost as good a picture, for "free" (came with the phone). I think the Micro four-thirds trend is the result of this, more MP and fancier sensors are no longer the way forward, smaller, lighter, better user features are the way forward.
17th Aug 2010, 03:00 PM
I'm sorry. It's the "RETRO" point. Similar to someone wanting a horse to ride, while everyone else is driving cars. It doesn't matter how many advantages a car has, nor how fast the car goes, nor how many features there are, they still want the horse (or the bicycle, or the sneakers). View cameras and medium format are nice for similar reasons and fit a niche as well.
I also miss my old Yashicamat at times (not so much as my old FM). I don't miss the darkroom though.
It's been a long time since I last saw her (my old FM), and that's probably why I'm yearning for her. Although I do remember that she collected dust in the closet after I got my new digital babe though. It was a 1.8MP Canon A10, and I was astounded at the pictures and entertained by the process. 1.8MP was all I needed to ditch the FM and darkroom at the time. While 1.8MP may sound small, the pictures we post on this website (roughly 1000x600 pixels) are smaller than 1MP. But that's another topic.
1.8MP served me well for the times. Although 25MP in a full frame is inticing. I love to zoom in forever and crop a feature that I couldn't even see when I was there, such as the lettering on an N-Scale engine or car.
Photography is too big to confine in one thread though, so that leads me back to topic...Retro film cameras, especially 35mm SLRs.
17th Aug 2010, 03:22 PM
Now, if you want retro I remember as a kid making a paper pinhole camera that took 110 film. Well, as we all know pinhole gives great depth of field, which is a problem with a lot of N scale photography. We actually could use some of that tech again.
17th Aug 2010, 03:44 PM