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    I would like a stack train i have a couple of old mdc 48' cars I know there are problems with some of the cars made over the years pins holding together to light so and so forth. What are the least expensive and reliable stack cars to get? Jay
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    Quote Originally Posted by spam1234 View Post
    I would like a stack train i have a couple of old mdc 48' cars I know there are problems with some of the cars made over the years pins holding together to light so and so forth. What are the least expensive and reliable stack cars to get? Jay
    I'm not sure if you are referring to Gunderson TwinStacks for Intermodal but that is what I have they are quite well constructed
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    Quote Originally Posted by spam1234 View Post
    I would like a stack train i have a couple of old mdc 48' cars I know there are problems with some of the cars made over the years pins holding together to light so and so forth. What are the least expensive and reliable stack cars to get? Jay
    The Walthers cars are probably where I would suggest you start. These are all metal, and a relatively inexpensive option for getting started.

    For yor MDC cars, install MTL trucks on them, and add metal wheel sets. Then use weighted containers in the lower position. The metal wheel sets make the cars heavy enough to be used empty near the rear of a train. You need the weighted container for the cars to work near the front of the train.

    To install MTL trucks on the cars, you need to either enlarge the hole for the bolster pin using a 5/64th inch drill bit, or use MTL 11039 truck pins. I have always enlarged the hole in the bolster for my cars ( I have about a dozen of the MDC well cars). John Sing has a nice website describing his MTL truck mounting experience here:

    http://home.comcast.net/~j.sing/MDC_...r_Install.html

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    I just checked the walthers cars I like the price compaired with the others thanks
    it always takes more tha one try to get it right! Jay

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    One thing about the Walthers cars, they come with rapido couplers.
    They can be changed out with MT trucks and couplers and GMM also has a detailing set for them if you decide to upgrade them. http://www.goldmm.com/nscale/gmnfrtyp.htm

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    I have some MDC Husky stacks with stock trucks/couplers. They are very tippy- with two containers, if things are not precisely balanced, they tip to one side alarmingly. In generally, I find them rather wobbly. Has anyone else had this experience?

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    Here's a good website foe nscale intermodal.

    http://greenlightintermodal.info/Home_Page.php

    They have a fairly complete listing of what's out there, and some good info on improving models.

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    I got my 'other' cars on sale but at $90 for three list price my layout wouldn't have a stack train, talk about sticker shock! I also got 9 or 10 Walthers singles that I need to work on.
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    I bought 19 walthers cars and walthers containers I am happy with the weight of the cars they arent the most detaied cars but with my eyesight they look good to me. I should take pics when the last order comes in. My question is I need this train to run in Omaha wgh I dont want to permently glue the top container on my freind suggested goo just a drop on each end then i will be able to seperate them later he also said thin magnents what do you guyts think thank you Jay
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    To hold the top container on, I use what we always called this fun tack when I was
    growing up.

    This is sold for hanging posters on walls. It is a sticky putty about the consistency
    of silly putty. I bought some last month at an office depot here in town. This was
    3M brand. I still have the package and can get you the UPC code if you need it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Newbie51 View Post
    I'm not sure if you are referring to Gunderson TwinStacks for Intermodal but that is what I have they are quite well constructed
    They are but they're extremely light...I make sure to add metal wheels and weights on the containers of the end cars.

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    we have that place in town office max and depot this is a good idea Jay
    it always takes more tha one try to get it right! Jay

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    Quote Originally Posted by pbender View Post
    The Walthers cars are probably where I would suggest you start. These are all metal, and a relatively inexpensive option for getting started.

    For yor MDC cars, install MTL trucks on them, and add metal wheel sets. Then use weighted containers in the lower position. The metal wheel sets make the cars heavy enough to be used empty near the rear of a train. You need the weighted container for the cars to work near the front of the train.

    To install MTL trucks on the cars, you need to either enlarge the hole for the bolster pin using a 5/64th inch drill bit, or use MTL 11039 truck pins. I have always enlarged the hole in the bolster for my cars ( I have about a dozen of the MDC well cars). John Sing has a nice website describing his MTL truck mounting experience here:

    http://home.comcast.net/~j.sing/MDC_...r_Install.html

    Paul
    Would one need to grind out space for the wheels if low profile wheels were used?
    John

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    Quote Originally Posted by jhn_plsn View Post
    Would one need to grind out space for the wheels if low profile wheels were used?
    I have never made any of the body modifications that John Sing indicates he made. I do have used a single mtl spacer washer between the trucks And bolster. That said, I need to pull one of my cars out and check to see if they still have pizza cutter wheel sets.

    Paul

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