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    After day 1 of vacation, I've made good progress on the layout. On Sunday, we feased the idea of Bittinger on the other side and figured it would be too compressed to be a worthwhile change. Then we spent about an hour figuring out the idea for the helix even though we're not quite there yet on construction. Due to how the layout will run town to town, the line will have to cross over itself somewhere, but we're fairly certain we have that figured into it already as the Hanover side is 2" higher than the Hagerstown side. More to come on that later.

    So then we finally set to work. Ken proposed a valance along the back wall to block out most of the window and the plumbing that drops down from the bathroom above. After another 30 minutes discussing how low to bring it, how to build it and how far out to place it, we went about actually building it. Another 30 minutes or so, we had this. Picture was taken after I went to task painting it and part of the walls/pipes the magical flat black.

    20190414_173830 by Adam Henry, on Flickr

    Today, I made the trek to Lowes for more drywall to finish the lower section under the lower level, masonite for the backdrops and some more lumber amongst a few other things. One final thing that we discussed on Sunday was height of the second level and came to the final number of 16" between decks, having the second deck being at about eye level for me. I had Lowes cut the masonite length wise to 16", though I should have told him 16" + a blade, as the cuts came out at 15 7/8". Good thing it didn't have to be exact. I was able to get the drywall installed and mudded first coat, and lower level backdrop installed and painted this afternoon/evening. Here is where I stand at the end of day 1. Not sure what will get done tomorrow, as weather is forecasted to be nice tomorrow and possibly Wednesday but possibly some showers moving in again.

    20190415_222632 by Adam Henry, on Flickr


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    What's with the split in the back drop?
    I'm guessing at the height that's it has something to do with a view to the other side?
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    That's where the second deck will be attached. We figured it would be easier to do the ceiling and actually get the second deck backdrop up first, then come back to add the second deck. Less stuff in the way

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    Ooops.
    Forgot about the second deck duh, lol.
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    Great progress can’t wait to see more.

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    Well, I was off from work all this week so here's where the layout room stands as vacation ends. I was able to get the backdrops hung on the Hanover/Porters side of the layout, which allowed the installation of the drop ceiling. Big thanks to my buddy Ken, who has the O Scale Western Maryland Dutch Line layout that I help out on, for the large part of the ceiling work. After that was all taken care of, I was able to start benchwork on the upper level. Bittinger will be sitting on modules picked up from a friend and will work out great. Exactly the size I was thinking for the quarry. Benchwork is completed on the second level almost to where Ag Com will now be situated.

    20190421_220610[1] by Adam Henry, on Flickr

    I am out of 1x4s so benchwork on the other only extends to the far end of the Utz factory siding.

    20190421_220620[1] by Adam Henry, on Flickr

    Also got the floors covered back up with the foam floor mats. I love these things, much nicer than standing on concrete all night.

    20190421_220121[1] by Adam Henry, on Flickr


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    Quote Originally Posted by mu26aeh View Post
    Also got the floors covered back up with the foam floor mats. I love these things, much nicer than standing on concrete all
    And more forgiving on dropped rolling stock.
    Cheers!
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    just added those foam flooring squares too. My wife found a good deal on the net.
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    I'm sure I've mentioned this before, but...
    I have those black foam pads as well and I love them but they threw me a fit about a year after I installed.
    During the winter months they can build up a good static charge especially when I'd walk on them with my socks or if my pant legs would drag on them and this will set off a good shock when I'd touch the rails.
    This in turn would screw up some of my DCC chips in the locos that were on the layout. TCS chips were affected the worst. Took me a couple of seasons to figure out what was happening.

    I added a small humidifier which helped and before any sessions I would spray them down with a quick coat of Static Guard. This worked.
    Also be careful and don't overdo it with the spray as it'll get kind of slippery.

    But as always, YMMV...
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    Thanks for the info, I'll be on the lookout.

    One thing that's different here is I rarely, if ever am in the basement without socks and shoes. I can really feel it the next day after walking around without shoes.

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    And tonight, there was light !

    2019-04-24 19.19.47 by Adam Henry, on Flickr


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    "And it was good!"
    It looks much nicer with those lights!
    The upper lever is looking good as well.
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    So not much railroad progress made recently, as it's been focus on the ceiling. Well I can say that for now, the ceiling is finished. At least 75% of it. I have one more section to do, but that will need to wait until more construction funds can be secured. Also all lighting has been purchased and installed in the finished sections. I think I have placement correct, but the nice thing is if needed I can simply switch panels and lights to move them around, or just add an additional light.

    61541316_10215445226737478_4544059348875214848_o by Adam Henry, on Flickr

    61451269_10215445227577499_8755480889493815296_o by Adam Henry, on Flickr

    And I was able to finish last couple pieces of benchwork and back drop, and rebuilt the peninsula benchwork that will support the helix. I'm going to draw out the helix on cardboard first so I can get templates cut.

    20190602_194758 by Adam Henry, on Flickr


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    Long time, no posts ! But it's because I've been busy in the basement.

    First up, the elephant in the room, the helix. I got the first loop assembled.
    2019-06-30 17.27.22 by Adam Henry, on Flickr
    And corked...
    66042019_768914046840213_6540010219890540544_n by Adam Henry, on Flickr

    Next we'll go up the helix to the UL. You'll cross Elm St (over right shoulder) and come into the area of the Elm St siding, leading to the Utz Potato Chip factory just around the first bend. Past there is the leads to "New" Siding, where the eastbound 797 will drop empties from Ag Com for the westbound to grab back to Hagerstown, and the lead into the quarry.
    20190706_184838 by Adam Henry, on Flickr

    Here's the view from the other side, and of the wye. The quarry yard layout still needs to be decided on.
    2019-06-30 19.34.22 by Adam Henry, on Flickr
    2019-06-30 19.24.26 by Adam Henry, on Flickr

    Finally, a shot from the "Gettysburg" side of the wall, showing Ag Com, Dal Tile and Morton Buildings past the far bend.
    20190706_205626 by Adam Henry, on Flickr

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    Busy busy busy, my my!
    It all looks good Adam and I think I can safely say that it doesn't resemble my layout anymore.
    Which means what happens on your layout will not be happening on mine any longer.....


    The dropped ceiling really dresses off the room as well.

    Looking forward to seeing the transformation continue.
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    And a video update to tie it all together, albeit poorly


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    I roughed in the yard at Vulcan Quarry this evening. Lots of work to be done here, including scratchbuilding the stone loadout to go along with the lime loadout I already did. And lots of conveyors. And lots and lots of stone piles. Lots of stone piles

    20190711_215738 by Adam Henry, on Flickr

    20190711_215754 by Adam Henry, on Flickr


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    That looks good Adam! Plenty of space and not cramped!
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    So since I last updated, I've got a good bit done. Also realized I screwed up my helix calculation by at least 2 loops, and underestimated how much flex a 2 track helix that was screwed up by 2 loops can consume. I worked until I ran out of flex, and connection plates for my helix segments. Trip to Lowe's needed and waiting for Canadian post to release 30 sticks of flex to USPS.

    Started out with the main coming out of Hagerstown/Security. It's an 18" radius turn back loop to get from this side of the layout into the helix so I can have the tracks come off correctly at the top.

    2019-07-21 13.26.54 by Adam Henry, on Flickr

    Here's the view as we start into the helix. I originally tacked double track all the way to the bottom, but later realized I didn't need the second track until somewhere in the second loop as the other side is 2" higher. So I tore it out. Only later to put it back in as someone suggested a staging track there. It was suggested before I tore it out, but thought " no reason to stage anything there since it's the middle of the sub." Well when the 2nd suggestion came up, I thought " hell, I could store a cleaning train there". So track went back in with a turnout at the bottom, as seen, and another where the mainline connects. Of course, this creates another reverse loop so I'll have to deal with that. Anyways, here's the picture.

    2019-07-21 15.10.32 by Adam Henry, on Flickr

    Here's where it gets tricky, as the other side is 2" higher start, where does the helix meet up at ? Luckily somehow it worked out with just a slight grade adjustment, I could fit a curved turnout right in the center of the curve and have it line up perfectly with the main coming off straight. Coming out of Center St yard, you'll cross the Ma&Pa diamond, and another turnout that will lead to a single industry that I plan to put on the outside of the helix as a backdrop building. Use every available space right ? Come up the grade and around the curve and into the helix.

    20190721_211551 by Adam Henry, on Flickr

    20190721_211558 by Adam Henry, on Flickr

    20190721_211601 by Adam Henry, on Flickr

    I was able to go about another loop before I ran out of supplies, and once you've seen 1 loop in a helix, they are all the same. Well, minus a curved turnout. So hopefully the next update post you'll see is a completed helix 2 months to deadline, need to be running by Sept 20

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