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    Oooooooh Boy Howdy!! Got the mainline finished today! Pics are coming later, got to go look at some jobs with a concrete guy, then I can pull pins and clean track and run a first train! With pics and video!
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    So, after running trains around both forwards and backwards in DC, with a string of boxcars, then it was time to hook up the DCC. The NPBH is back in business! Just got to build switches and sidings and customers and . . . . .
    So here's a couple of pics of the final stages and the final spike ceremony
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    And so with all the track tested and functional, DCC went in and trains ran! Video proof for the sceptics among us........

    Thanks for all the encouragement here on the net!
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    PIC_0054.jpg Yes, I got one switch installed and fine tuned and even ran a train over it! I read about someones issue with the points being filed too small, so I left mine a little meaty. That then required a little bit of trimming, which is easier than building back up! All the input from the various tutorials I read here and elsewhere was invaluable! Thanks to all!

    And here's that train!

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    And today we finally had an official gold spike ceremony for the mainline. The CEO crawled out of his shack to observe, to the surprise of all! He is near the action with the broken tophat and matching brown coat. Also had some progress laying in two more switches for the mainline to the branch heading for the yet to be built upper level. So, first is the gold spike:

    And then a couple of pics of the switches:
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    Have a few lessons learned already. I need ti work on the precurve on the points and diverging route stock rail. Pre-tinning the rail is definitely the way to go (thanks Rodsup!), and these things are pretty durable as spindly as they look. Next step, more switches and a yard ladder or two.
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    Alan, another thing I do is hinge the points to help relive the stress on the PC throwbar and it's easier to keep the point rails in gauge. I use Cloverhouse HOn3 pc ties for the throwbars cause they are just a hair wider.

    Those pictured that you made are looking good.

    Here's mine with the hinged points.







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    So, the NPBH acquired a Cab Forward! Why? Well, it's an oil burner and the primary oil customer on the line was making some noise about our need to try running an oil burner. So, a great deal was found on a slightly used engine of SP heritage and the bargain was struck. She has been working her way up to the Road and finally got caught on video while being worked on the CM&B.
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    You needed the oil burner bc of a customer demand for it, but we see it hauling coal? Something fishy is going on!
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimil View Post
    You needed the oil burner bc of a customer demand for it, but we see it hauling coal? Something fishy is going on!
    Hey, the railroad allocates power where it's needed... maybe that day wasn't "oil delivery day" ??
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    There you go! She was hauling coal on the CM&B, not known for the most efficient use of power! Now she's on her home turf at the NPBH and hauled her first revenue freight. Still waiting on that shipment of new oil tankers from Intermountain............. so we pulled boxcars with drums of oil in them!
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    So, I spent a few hours installing a switch, hunting for and fixing a short caused by a stray bit of copper from a tie, then hunting a non-existent low ohm 'short' that proved itself to be the DCC power supply still connected. Lesson learned. DUH!!!!!!!! So, it seems like a good time to start placing ties upon the reassembly of it all.
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    It's amazing how the little things like unplugging the power supply before troublshooting a short escape the thought process.....must mean something!?
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    I've spent a lot of time chasing the 'phantom short' too!
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    Human??? I know a few what would dispute the claim!!! Have been pondering some way to build a switch throw with bigger dpdt's on the edge of the layout. . . And they gotta be simple!

    Phantom shorts remind me of an SD40 of dubious Conrail heritage I was troubleshooting. Threw the Ground Relay every time we put power to it. Isolated motors and did some Meg-Ohmeter and Hi-Pot tests and couldn't find it. A second elec tried on a different shift, no joy there either. Played with it for a couple more days, and finally got permission to bypass all the ground protection circuits and find it the 'easy' way. That was a fun ride! As each of the six oil soaked and damaged traction motors blew up the loco jumped and slowed down. All six motors were bad! We had spent a few days cleaning and drying them out and trying to find anything outside of the motors themselves. The shop sup just could not accept that it had 6 bad motors, until we proved it.

    This particular troubleshooting method is not recommended for model railroads!
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    This particular troubleshooting method is not recommended for model railroads!
    But I've used it (or something similar) anyway!

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    That was probably one of my most fun troubleshooting jobs! The loco bucked and jumped with each motor 'popping!' My trainee was sitting watching the inside of the cabinet and his eyes were BIG! Lots of sparks flying inside the arc chutes. The machinist was just flabbergasted we had figured out a way to do this! Electrical mystery!!! Fun!!
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    Reminds me of someone I know (no, not me) who supposedly gaps his PCB ties on his turnouts by connecting either rail to a car battery or house voltage and letting the copper on the ties burn up....

    (DO NOT try this. I imagine it's pretty dangerous. )

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    Finally had a weekend with time off AND the energy to work on the layout. Got everything reassembled from the short circuit search and installed another switch to connect the 1 Track siding in my main yard! So, now I even have a place for trains to pass! Proof is in the video.....
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    Made time this weekend to add this siding. I used a couple of ME55 #6 switches I had so as to use them up. This siding will be used for access to a couple of oil wells and a warehouse/headquarters for a drilling outfit
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    And proof that the trains actually run! It sure has been nice to actually get to hear them steam around again! Now I just need to find the part number for the tiny little DPDT's that are being used to throw switches!?
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    What a great idea....mobile home layout! Often, old mobile homes can be found for the price of hauling them away. Since they'd be gutted for model railroad use, or at least 2/3rds gutted, the condition of the interior isn't paramount, as long as it's waterproof. And with a little luck you'll end up with a beer/soda fridge and a dedicated rest room. Usually on one end is the 'living room' area, you can save that and make it a train lounge/BS room/office and the layout can take up all the old bedroom space and kitchen.

    It's not something I'll probably be lucky enough to do someday but for anyone living in a rural area, perfect....and portable!

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