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    Gentledudes,

    After much disscusion the wife has agreed to let me use the new garage as an area for my layout. I came up with the idea of using rubbermaid shelf bracket system.

    RubbermaidConfigurations26-InchAdd-OnShelvingKit.jpg

    I am not going to use the wire shelves,, I am just going to use the brackets to hold the modules, I checked and 1/2" plywood fits in the brackets . So the plan is use a "L" made from 1/2" ply to fit in the bracket. I am also going to use the brackets to make a valance to hold lighting, and storage. Which was one of the selling points to my wife. The brackets come in many lenghts, I am choosing the 16" to support my 18" modules.

    This is just a rough idea of what I am shooting for,,, all modules with be 6' x 1-6".
    the idea is just rough,, what I am requesting is for the track planning gurus to help with filling in the blanks. I would like a yard or two with 8-10 industries. The rough idea I had was to have a yard in the middle along a yard on each of the end modules. I have everything I need to construct,, track, wire, lumber,, you name it I got it,, plus I can hand lay track if need be.

    So let me have it,, not the hot oil and molten lead,, the ideas, the ideas.

    See ya, Wyatt
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    That's the same system I'm using for my layout. Should work fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SOO View Post
    After much disscusion the wife has agreed to let me use the new garage as an area for my layout. I came up with the idea of using rubbermaid shelf bracket system.
    I have used similar shelf brackets to support my Free-moN modules. I got the idea from Iain Rice's book on shelf layouts.
    ( my modules are currently on thier feet, but they will eventually move back to the brackets.)


    I am not going to use the wire shelves,, I am just going to use the brackets to hold the modules, I checked and 1/2" plywood fits in the brackets . So the plan is use a "L" made from 1/2" ply to fit in the bracket. I am also going to use the brackets to make a valance to hold lighting, and storage. Which was one of the selling points to my wife. The brackets come in many lenghts, I am choosing the 16" to support my 18" modules.
    I'll see if I can find ( or take ) a picture of my shelf bracket modification. I typically have the brackets positioned under the ends of the modules.

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    Wyatt,
    Before we start slinging track plans, help us fill in some blanks.

    Era
    Location
    Railroads
    Industry Preferences (what freight cars do you like?)

    I've built my whole layout (52 feet of mainline) in my garage using FreemoN standards. I know you like the SOO Line. Have you thought of modeling RedWing, MN? It has two yards, a bunch of industries, and a cool mix of mainline traffic.
    Karl

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    Karl,

    In answer to your questions

    1. 70's to mid 80's
    2. Wisconsin/Minnesota. Thought about either the SOO between Stevens Point and Fond Du Lac. Or in Minnesota, Twin Cities, all the transfers from all the Different RR's. Maybe the Shoreham Hill area. Maybe the New Brighton area with the MNS crossing the SOO.
    3. SOO,MILW,CNW,MNS,CRIP,BN,GBW I have motive power for all these.
    4. Well the proverbial grain, lots and lots of it. ( covered hoppers). Lumber ( bulkhead, flats, box cars), Warehouses ( boxcar). Fabrication, ( Gons, flats, bulkheads, coil cars) Petro Chemical,,( tanks, Covered Hoppers, and more tank cars. Aggregate to include concrete, sand, rocks/gravel, portland cement ( small covered hoppers, open hoppers, ballast cars, PD3000 covered hoppers) Paper mils, ( tanks, box car, covered hoppers, pulpwood cars) Maybe auto parts,, somewhere for my 50+ autoparts cars to go and come from. Feed and Fertilizer ( covered hoppers) Plastics( more covered hoppers) Maybe some sort of power plant,( open coal hoppers) Also maybe some sort of railcar maintenance facility.All these trains will have cabooses.

    In short all and every industries. I just LOVE switching. I thought about transfer runs to and from all the RR's mentioned. Maybe somehow incorporate the Dayton's Bluff area. I know my list is big,, that is the issue I am having. I would like to have interchange yards also for off layout traffic. I also need some sort of diesel facility,, for my 100+ locos

    Well I hope I was clear enough without being too broad.

    Thanks for the help in advance.

    Adios, Wyatt

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    I have an idea for you, that will fit your space well. The Minnesota Transfer Ry. If you look at the Minnesota Commercial 'A' Yard in Saint Paul (Off Transfer Rd), it is a nice sized, curving yard you could have wrapping around one corner. They have a roundhouse the MNNR still uses today south of the yard.


    The MN Transfer was owned by the CBQ, CGW, MILW, Rock Island, GN and NP (plus a few others). From the yard the line crosses two major main lines and heads into some of the best urban switching you will ever see, boxcars, tank cars, covered hoppers and steel via coil cars and bulkhead flats. They switch lots or grain on their Hiawatha Line, plus they interchanged with MILW at Pigs Eye, BN at NTW and UP as well.
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    You will not be sorry you went with the shelf system you are choosing! I used the Rubbermaid Shelf System on my layout too. Just be aware that the brackets are "prestressed and tilt up a little. I used plain old cedar shingle shims to bring the foam to perfect level. Here are a few old photos to show how I used the brackets and the backdrop supports. This system will work well for modules as well. They hold a lot of weight and are rock solid.






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    Karl,

    Thanx,, that RR looks nice,,hmm

    Eric,

    I figured they would come with some sort of pre-stressing,, so things dont fall off the shelf for the lay people.

    Thanx again guys!!

    Adios Wyatt

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    Look at that Alco trying to be a steamer!!!

    With the quantity of cars and industries you are interested in, and the quantity of locos, something like that transfer route would be super plausible and flexible. Moving a string of cement cars across the road without having to model the quarry or plant adds interest. and simplifies modeling in a small space. This applies to any type of car or industry. And then there is always the 'need' to run a re-routed train across, which opens more plausible options.

    This ought to be fun!
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    I plan on building the modules in the next week or two,, get them mounted to the shelving brackets,, and get to laying track. Can't wait.

    I thought about building enough modules to make a complete rectangle so I can have roundy roundy when I want,, and I will be able to take them down when the wife wants the family chariot back in the garage.

    See ya, Wyatt

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    Quote Originally Posted by SOO View Post
    I plan on building the modules in the next week or two,, get them mounted to the shelving brackets,, and get to laying track. Can't wait.

    I thought about building enough modules to make a complete rectangle so I can have roundy roundy when I want,, and I will be able to take them down when the wife wants the family chariot back in the garage.

    See ya, Wyatt
    That sounds like a great idea!

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    Then you can run those diversion trains around and around! And when the fam wants to park the chariot, the modules will stack on shelf brackets along the wall till you want to use them again. Great thinking!
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    I have been thinking about doing a set of turnback loops with staging tracks, this what I came up with.


    Parallel track centerlines are 1 1/2"





    I do see where that one turnout could be bridging the gap,, I can fix when I construct these modules,,, I just noticed that.


    Comments?


    Adios, Wyatt

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    The one turnout you speak of, along with the other two, could be pulled to the
    left enough to clear the joint? Could it not?
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    Well Allen suggested a offset turnback loop..so here ya go






    there ya have it.

    Adios Wyatt
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    Hmmmm
    Still not seeing them on the computer Wyatt!

    Anyone else not seeing them?
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    It's not just you Allen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silent1961 View Post
    It's not just you Allen.
    OK, thanks. I told Wyatt about it but he sees it on his own page. I also don't see it on another forum, but others do.
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    I can't see it.
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    Guys...
    Really sorry..pc is now sleeping with the fishes.
    I should be able to fix by Wednesday.

    Adios wyatt

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