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    Moose no remember having such problem on Atlas code 55...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moose2013 View Post
    Moose no remember having such problem on Atlas code 55...
    it's just me, I always have problems, I don't know why.

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    Hindsight being 20:20 it would have been cheaper to install the decoder...

    However, if you look at this as enjoyable hobby time then the hours of 'entertainment' you are getting is worth hundreds... imagine all the movie tickets you would have had to buy to keep you occupied for the same amount of time...

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    Quote Originally Posted by McNamee View Post
    Hindsight being 20:20 it would have been cheaper to install the decoder...
    /pfff


    however even if I did install a decoder it would still have needed some grades to climb.... it's a SHAY after all

    Quote Originally Posted by McNamee View Post
    However, if you look at this as enjoyable hobby time then the hours of 'entertainment' you are getting is worth hundreds... imagine all the movie tickets you would have had to buy to keep you occupied for the same amount of time...
    Indeed

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    Have you checked the gauge on the wheelsets? An out of gauge wheelset could lead to the problems you describe.

    Also, on powering the frogs, you could use slide switches, which could also double to hold the points in place.

    Andrew

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    Quote Originally Posted by conrailandrew View Post
    Have you checked the gauge on the wheelsets? An out of gauge wheelset could lead to the problems you describe.

    Also, on powering the frogs, you could use slide switches, which could also double to hold the points in place.

    Andrew
    it's a new Shay, so it better not be out of gauge

    and yeah, I found a forum post elsewhere () that covered using a switch for both.... which I could do. I can sell the ground throws I bought since I haven't opened them. Wiring will be a PITA the way I have the terrain/benchwork setup though :grrr:

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    Quote Originally Posted by zosimas View Post
    it's a new Shay, so it better not be out of gauge
    Just because it's "new N gauge" doesn't mean that it's "new and in-gauge." It SHOULD be, but it couldn't hurt to check.

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    Almost everything you buy is under gauge as shipped. The main exception to this are the one piece molded wheels etc (like Microtrains).

    Don
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    Hello Zoismas (AKA Charles)
    This is an interesting thread for me because perhaps I might be able to handle something like this. I've still got my Shay and I haven't sold off my track, switches and a bunch of my other stuff. something like about a 2x3 maybe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChicagoNW View Post
    From experience, having a separate tiny layout with a unique bit of railroading on it, can have lots of advantages over incorporating it into a larger layout.


    No explanations needed - The self contained layout is it's own reason for existence
    Education - You can use the small layout as a teaching tool, to explain model railroading, the prototype or the industry. You can even use it to illustrate historical differences
    A total diversion - During those times when the main layout throws you a loop, the small layout allows you something different, be it equipment or scenery.
    A sense of accomplishment - It is much easier to actually finish a micro layout. That doesn't mean you cannot add more detail or rework portions of it later.
    A place to experiment - A small layout is the perfect place to try something new or different. For me, a huge streetcar layout, might have been a disaster. Learning on a 1x2 layout made perfect sense and a fun project.
    Portability -


    Don't want to go to the layout room but still want to play trains? No problem.
    It is easy to share your hobby with someone who cannot come to see your big layout.
    Prevents withdrawal pains - Take the tiny layout with you on an extended trip. Built correctly, it is no more hassle than another suitcase.
    Can't get to the big layout? The mini layout can come to you.


    Don't get carried away and make the small layout too heavy or to big to be easily transported. Make sure all the scenery is well secured. Building the controller into the layout, using a wall wart for power, means quick and easy set up. A Bakatronics PWM motor controller kit is easy to build and incorporate into the layout. It is tiny enough to be built into a structure. If possible incorporate equipment storage, so you don't have to hunt them up. It is no fun to run a layout without a loco and cars. Or having to roam the house to find all the bits.
    Been spending a lot of time outside this summer, often finding myself wishing I had something to work on outside besides gardening. So after some brain storming I decided to get back to this project, for many of the reasons CNW listed above.

    First plan was drafted almost exactly from this courtesy of CarnDT.

    Drawn in SCARM using Peco C55 (for the electrofrog turnouts). I know Peco is not true C55, but by using Peco C55 I get the illusion of smaller track height but still compatible with possible future modules if C80 is used.
    based on Mower Lumber Company, Cass, WV.

    Cass_Mower_Lumber_Co-C55.jpg

    Second option, a bit more expensive with double the number of turn-outs, flattened Gum Stump & Snowshoe (flattened due to 46" length restriction)

    Flattened Gump Stump and Snowshoe.jpg

    What I have decided to work with is a nice 10" x 46" section of birch plywood I have laying around... I still need to buy a couple pine boards from the hardware store to make a frame. I was going to use whatever I scraps I had around for the frame but decided just in case I want to add more modules in the future that I should do it properly. besides, two 8' 1x4" pine boards is only about $10.

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    FWIW I like the first one - nice balance of scenery - I could see the "town" scene being too compressed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scotian_Huntress View Post
    FWIW I like the first one - nice balance of scenery - I could see the "town" scene being too compressed?
    yeah, I'm partial to the first one too. As for the town scene I was thinking like town buildings you might have seen back in the day near the tracks.

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    ok, I began playing around with a modified version of "Into the Hills"

    screenshot_20180831_180022.jpg31x34.jpg

    Logging for the Shay, or a quarry for the SW-1
    two industries compressed into one scene (I know unrealistic but )

    Loco pushes either 2-3 short log cars or 2-3 short flat cars up the hill, then brings load back down to the mills where the cars are "off loaded"
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    with a little modification, I can actually put these two together

    31x24+12x36-3d.jpg31x24+12x36.jpg

    This plan will be implemented in the near future, there's rumors of a room opening up in the house in the next year. The 21-year old is getting restless

    PS: flip the "to CASS" and "to woods" labels

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    You could fit one half of a lumber mill with internal details along the mill pond?

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    I guess 6 1/2" radius is too tight, I mean it seems to work on the test track, but it doesn't look like it would work well in practice. So future plans for the micro will probably be minimum 7 1/2" radius?

    IMG_0847.jpg

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    Hmmm, everything Moose read about Atlas Shays are 9 3/4" minimum. That sounds like the typical stated minimum for most n-scale steam locomotives. That 6 1/2" definitely too small! Go with as large as you can in the space you have - in the long run, you'll be happier, this moose believes...
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    I should probably get one this sometime soon too....

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    Here is PART 1 of the new build plan, expanded benchtop to fit the space available, for tonight I simply over-layed the current drawing into that space for a visual.
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    Cass_Mower_Lumber_Co16x48.jpg

    as you can see I know have more wiggle room, maybe I can rotate the track at a diagonal....

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