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    Default Harvest Hauler COOP Project in N scale.

    Harvest Hauler - Freelance COOP Project in N scale. Special Run Train-worx hopper with (Your) Freelance reporting marks. Information soon for those interested. Possible schemes for your opinions ? Reporting marks and RR Logo can be on both. This N Scale high-side 4427 PS-2CD covered hopper model by Train-worx represents a Freelanced Cooperative that provides cars for lease to member railroads. Often seen in 'Pool' service. The basic design concept is shown. Model features Multi-color logo, and individual reporting marks.

    UPDATED: Here is a link to the non-public (at present) Concepts webpage. At the MIDDLE of the page are three file links to pdf files with all the information.
    http://prosites-srmodels.homestead.c...rary-page.html

    Comments Welcome.

    I Freelance model the Alabama Gulf Railway & Greenlight Intermodal Logistics company in the 1991ish era. I also collect a lot of models from other Freelancers, and the HH project is an outflow of interactions with other Freelancers.

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    Scheme 3A:
    http://prosites-srmodels.homestead.com/3A_HHH.jpg


    Scheme 2b;
    http://prosites-srmodels.homestead.com/2b_HHH.jpg

    Scheme 4a;
    http://prosites-srmodels.homestead.com/4a_and_4b.jpg
    Last edited by GULL; 30th Apr 2017 at 10:56 AM. Reason: Updated and added links
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    Alabama Gulf Rwy.

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    I'm interested, tell me more...
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    Me too... More info?
    Did someone say whitcomb?

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    The phrase "Harvest Hauler" looks like it was scrawled with a spray can. I do like the icon squares with the white background. It makes the colors pop better. Also it allows the icons to be adapted to other colors other than gray.

    I would suggest a bolder font with a speed slant.

    If these cars are leased to smaller roads during the big fall rush, the key is to show off the leasing company name. The car is a rolling billboard. Use the Solid Cold Refers as an example. Their logo takes up almost half the car side.
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    Most grain leasers are second hand patch jobs. Rarely are they even repainted. Lease companies don't need to advertise on freight cars. Usually they are rust buckets that have more maintenance issues than anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChicagoNW View Post
    The phrase "Harvest Hauler" looks like it was scrawled with a spray can. I do like the icon squares with the white background. It makes the colors pop better. Also it allows the icons to be adapted to other colors other than gray.

    I would suggest a bolder font with a speed slant.

    If these cars are leased to smaller roads during the big fall rush, the key is to show off the leasing company name. The car is a rolling billboard. Use the Solid Cold Refers as an example. Their logo takes up almost half the car side.
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    LOL... that font is 'stalks of grain', that looks a lot better at 400% larger on my computer screen Here's a different option:

    http://prosites-srmodels.homestead.com/4a_and_4b.jpg

    http://prosites-srmodels.homestead.com/4a_multi.jpg
    Steven

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    Quote Originally Posted by GULL View Post
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    LOL... that font is 'stalks of grain', that looks a lot better at 400% larger on my computer screen Here's a different option:

    http://prosites-srmodels.homestead.com/4a_and_4b.jpg
    Not a big fan of that one, looks too rock island
    Did someone say whitcomb?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Intermodalman View Post
    Not a big fan of that one, looks too rock island
    And there's a problem with this why?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Intermodalman View Post
    Not a big fan of that one, looks too rock island
    What do you suggest ? Keeping in mind that I am leaving space to the right of the car for an individual Leasee member's LOGO, if they have one. There could be a 'COOP' owned version with HVHX reporting marks, and Large HH to the right: Like This:
    http://prosites-srmodels.homestead.com/HVHX.jpg
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    Could I get it without the logo and the "Harvest Hauler", just my reporting marks?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jpwisc View Post
    Could I get it without the logo and the "Harvest Hauler", just my reporting marks?
    That defeats the purpose of a custom run paint scheme.
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    After finally getting your poll to load. I do say that the wheat font doesn't look half bad when used in larger lettering.

    One trick I have used with thin fonts that don't have a bold version, is to stroke the text. This adds thickness to the letters by adding pixels to the outside edge of them. Thin fonts like that wheat one, always look stronger, the larger they are.

    You can give any font a speed look by using the oblique tool. Speed lettering is different that italics. Letters do not become thinner and the angle is more pronounced. The drawing program mathematically shifts the top and bottom of the letters when drawing them. If the font does not have them, horizontal speed marks enforce the idea of movement.

    While I understand keeping some area for other roads logos and reporting marks, I still think you need to be bolder in the design. Sure you could give the leasee the three or four outside panels, but fill the space of the middle ones. If you exclude the six outside panels, that gives you eight for the company graphics. Two for the icons but the other six could be filled with text.

    Another possibility is to run Harvest Hauler across the entire top of the car each letter in a panel. Bolder letters could be oblique and expanded. I can even see them in white or harvest gold on a maroon stripe complimenting the one on the bottom of that design. By doing this they don't have to be very tall. Similar to the old railroad lettering boards but with a different font. This allows you to use larger icons in the middle. And still have a decent amount of space for leasee reporting marks and logos.
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    Here's a Version with a 'Bar' across the top. There are hundreds of combinations of the many elements. These sketches serve to narrow down some basics, before fine tuning.

    http://prosites-srmodels.homestead.c...BAR_scheme.jpg
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChicagoNW View Post
    That defeats the purpose of a custom run paint scheme.
    Define Custom?
    Unless his reporting marks are already a
    standard run, then that would still make it custom.
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    I would be interested in buying a few.

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    UPDATED: Here is a link to the non-public (at present) Concepts webpage. At the MIDDLE of the page are three file links to pdf files with all the information.

    http://prosites-srmodels.homestead.c...rary-page.html
    Last edited by GULL; 2nd May 2017 at 06:22 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GULL View Post
    UPDATED: Here is a link to the non-public (at present) Concepts webpage. At the MIDDLE of the page are three file links to pdf files with all the information.

    http://prosites-srmodels.homestead.c...rary-page.html
    Looks like the link is dead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GULL View Post
    Here's a Version with a 'Bar' across the top. There are hundreds of combinations of the many elements. These sketches serve to narrow down some basics, before fine tuning.

    http://prosites-srmodels.homestead.c...BAR_scheme.jpg
    This one looks pretty good, maybe a little change in font but beyond that I like it.
    Did someone say whitcomb?

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    Here ya Go !

    A quick scan through the 'What's the name of your Freelance RR thread' ..... results in these See if you find a familiar reporting mark !

    http://prosites-srmodels.homestead.com/From_Nscale.pdf

    Just a little Funn .....

    SEE the Gallery Album

    http://www.nscale.net/forums/album.php?albumid=1499



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    Is this project even still alive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vince P View Post
    Is this project even still alive.
    Yes, When Train-worx announces the next run of the covered hoppers - there will be a couple weeks to make Final decisions..... We do not know when that will be.
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