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    Sorry, I meant the American tender models from Bachman, Atlas, Kato etc.

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    I've decided to build one from scratch as the differences are too many for me to bash a ready available one.
    3002-jubilee-in-the-yard-windsor-ontario-credit-unknown.jpg
    Here's a photo for comparison. If you zoom in you'll see that there's not much in common with Bachmann ect. Hope this helps.

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    Interesting. BTW have you seed the Canadian Pacific Historical Association Library
    http://www.cptracks.ca/cpdocs/main.asp
    Registration is required but it is free. They have Steam folios and Mechanical drawings amongst other things:
    http://www.cptracks.ca/data/Folio_steam/f2a.pdf
    http://www.cptracks.ca/data/Folio_steam/f1a.pdf

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    The CPR tender fronts were designed to match up with the all weather cabs on the locos. this resulted in a vestibule connection which wasn't seen on most US locos. There was also a styling that was uniquely CPR, particularly on passenger locos.
    I noticed on my old HO F1 4-4-4 the tender deck was recessed below the sides, this hid the water hatch and other tank top fittings, giving a smooth, clean profile.

    While a model, it's accurate for details and shows what i mean about the recessed tender top

    https://www.brasstrains.com/classic/...OM-Streamlined

    While this is a 2900 loco model(exactly like my loco, even the box is the same), you can see the tender details in the model photos.
    https://www.brasstrains.com/Classic/...ee-2928-Custom

    Hope this helps
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    Thank you Guys for the links. I had not seen a top view of the tender before. Very helpful.

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    the trucks look a lot like PRR dolphin type
    here is a source....

    https://www.shapeways.com/product/PP...ruck-for-bachm

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomcook View Post
    I love the fact that these often ran with 3 car trains. Great for small model railways like mine. here is No.3002 with an old buffet, an RDC and a lightweight car:Attachment 97483

    Have you got any photos of your lightweights up loaded ?
    I spent the last few weeks off and on forming grabs, hoping to get them into paint this week. They're not the highest priority for me now, I've got a fairly good stand in set for me Kootenay/Kettle Valley Express as is - I love the RDC placement in that, too - one great consist off my prototype is an RDC being pulled by a single C-liner!
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    Thank you Victor for the link. I will look into them.

    Trainboyh, Those passenger cars look amazing. Cutting out those windows must take the patients of a saint !!

    Progress on the Jubilee :
    IMG_6280.JPG IMG_6281.JPG
    The chopped Con cor chassis. Trailing truck has been shortened, front driver 'bit the dust' but the real work has been the leading truck. It too has been shortened. I used a coupling spring with a nut adjuster to control the ride. The threaded rod is a loose fit through the truck to give it some play. A small plastic washer between the spring and the truck helps reduce friction and stops the spring disappearing into the hole through the truck ! Tests so far have been a great success with it able to negotiate 9'' radius curves and after playing with the nut adjuster the truck rides through points just fine The real test though will be when I hitch up a tender and cars as the weight of a train pulling on the back of a loco causes the front to ride higher and derail the leading truck. I'm not in the clear yet ! It took a bit of work to create the empty space between the leading driver and the truck but I want to try and capture the see through look that can be seen in the side photo I posted earlier.

    Pistons next but I've a busy weekend in front of me building a house extension

    Thank you everyone for your encouraging input and to Admin for the unseen work of keeping this site up and running.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomcook View Post
    Trainboyh, Those passenger cars look amazing. Cutting out those windows must take the patients of a saint !!
    I'm sure they did, but all the credit goes to Geoff Gooderham. I have the patience of a cat.
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    Progress report !

    Gone as far as I can with the loco as I am waiting for handrails and bell to arrive. I will start work on the tender now
    IMG_6285.jpgIMG_6286.jpgIMG_6287.jpg
    I have fitted a directional LED headlight but will wait till after painting to fit the light lens.

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    Building the tender.

    I made the box out of thick plastic so that I could file and sand the curves into shape.
    IMG_6290.jpg
    Next I cut slots for the Kato trucks
    IMG_6291 (2).jpg
    I created a lift off top for access
    IMG_6297 (3).jpg
    It is now awaiting handrails,ladders and a back up light.
    IMG_6298 (2).jpgIMG_6301 (2).jpg
    That's as far as I can go until the postman brings the goodies to finish it off.

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    @tomcook

    Are you going to apply rivet decals, like http://www.archertransfers.com/ offers?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moose2013 View Post
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    Are you going to apply rivet decals, like http://www.archertransfers.com/ offers?
    they are in the post too ! though I'm not too sure as the whole side of the tender will be a decal and I'm not sure I will be able to get it to sit flat enough if I add rivet detail. I will have to do some tests but I haven't designed or found someone to print the decals yet !

    T.

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    Photos are cruel!!. I see the trucks need more detail

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    Photo update. Handrails fitted and and grey for the boiler applied. The light grey really shows up defects. Thankfully most of the loco and all of the tender will be black. Black covers things up just nicely. Handrails to fit on the tender next and waiting for the rivets to arrive in the post.
    IMG_6316.jpg

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    WOW!!! Excellent work on the tender, Tom!
    The Locomotive certainly has come together well too! Can't wait to see it painted...

    I was wondering if British cars, with their curved sides can be kitbashed into lightweight cars...
    Cheers,

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    Quote Originally Posted by mosslake View Post
    WOW!!! Excellent work on the tender, Tom!
    The Locomotive certainly has come together well too! Can't wait to see it painted...

    I was wondering if British cars, with their curved sides can be kitbashed into lightweight cars...
    Probably easier to use the Gooderham kits, I think there's a complete consist available
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    Quote Originally Posted by trainboyh16-44 View Post
    Probably easier to use the Gooderham kits, I think there's a complete consist available
    Never heard of them. But if there's kits available then yes, a better way to go...
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    Gooderham kits
    http://www.central-hobbies.com/products/ggood.html
    Didn't Rapiido make some as well - they are out of stock but can be found in LHS or the evil inlet
    https://rapidotrains.com/category/n-...past-models-n/

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    Thanks for posting the links. Once the Jubilee is done I'll be looking into these

    Handrails on the tender are proving entertaining !!!

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