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    Well, I have to tell you, I have been trying to ballast a small section of track, (under the mountain... thankfully). Holy %#$*^. What a pain in the butt. I can get the edges ok, but I cannot keep the stuff off the inner rails edges. And how long does it take the glue (3 to 1), to set up? At least I have more hidden areas to practice on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FrankieD View Post
    And how long does it take the glue (3 to 1), to set up?
    That depends on the ambient humidty, but also a 3:1 ratio of water to glue seems a bit thin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Schmidt View Post
    That depends on the ambient humidty, but also a 3:1 ratio of water to glue seems a bit thin.
    Yea, I did not like the mixture either. I will add additional white glue to the mix, and next time go 60/40 or 50/50.

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    Ive always used 50/50 , but im sure others have their own mixture

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    I use 50/50 and as for the inner edges , just clean to good enough and when dry use one of those soft sanding/rail cleaning pads and sand\scrape the ballast away , vacuum and you're done.
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    I also use a 50/50 mix (white glue/water) and it only takes about 15 minutes (at 76 degrees) for it to dry. With regards keeping ballast off the insides of the rails ... after I have spread the ballast I go back along the rails with a pointy hobby knife and pick out the ballast from the rails. I try to keep it out while brushing/spreading the ballast as well.

    As soon as I run a line of alcohol and then the glue/water on the ballast, I go back along the rails and remove any that has been displaced and moved onto the ties and to the inside of the rails. I do it while the glue is still wet because once it dries, it leaves a film and instead of getting rid one one small piece of ballast, you get rid of everything that one piece is attached to as a result of the glue film. Once completely dry, I'll double check to ensure the insides of the rails are clear though.

    Yep, ballasting is a pain the butt and why I only do about a foot at a time
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    Okay I am not a fan of ballasting but using the method of cleaning when dry I do about 2 meters / yards in an hour or so, probably less ( haven't ever timed it ).
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    Ok, how may of you "blew" away stray pieces off of the rails before realizing you haven't glued the stuff down yet. Ugh! Not once, not twice, BUT THREE times. IDIOT !!! Oh well at least I can laugh and am having fun. Well.... some fun...

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    Quote Originally Posted by FrankieD View Post
    Ok, how may of you "blew" away stray pieces off of the rails before realizing you haven't glued the stuff down yet. Ugh! Not once, not twice, BUT THREE times. IDIOT !!! Oh well at least I can laugh and am having fun. Well.... some fun...
    Not so much of that but sure have sucked up a lot of stuff like peeps. The over and over stuff,,well,,

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    Quote Originally Posted by FrankieD View Post
    Ok, how may of you "blew" away stray pieces off of the rails before realizing you haven't glued the stuff down yet. Ugh! Not once, not twice, BUT THREE times. IDIOT !!! Oh well at least I can laugh and am having fun. Well.... some fun...
    I'm guessing that might qualify as an "oopps"
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    Quote Originally Posted by wombat457 View Post
    I'm guessing that might qualify as an "oopps"
    The first time... Yes. The second time was old age. The third time it was time for my medication... Well maybe the medication caused the third time

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