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    ... not sure I'll have time and shipping is quite high.
    I strongly suggest that buying a 40 dollar motor is somewhat reasonable...
    that said... Kato makes a 4 wheel trolley 11-104 (ETA: and 11-103) that has a good motor... it should fit.
    ebay has a few for about 16 us dollars with shipping included...
    victor

    ETA: I went to check the bay for availability and the cheap ones are not around anymore... up to 24 bucks...

    victor
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    Quote Originally Posted by victor miranda View Post
    ... not sure I'll have time and shipping is quite high.
    Hi Victor, Thank you for your consideration.

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    it should fit.
    Unfortunately the motor is held captive by the body and the rotating trucks are then presented to it. This makes trying to position a new motor to mesh the worms with the gears in the truck towers extremely difficult as one can't see what's going on ? The loco has no chasses. it's kind of built upside down eg: The motor fits into the body,
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    then a plastic plate covers it with two holes to help the truck towers locate, (I have to glue this plate in place as I have shaved it down to a degree that it has only one screw left to hold it in place !!)
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    then the trucks are fitted and two little plastic tabs are slotted into the sides of the towers to hold them in place at the correct distance from the worms.
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    When I bought the loco for this project and discovered how it was put together I almost gave up !! I'm still feeling that way !!!

    On an at present pointless but positive note, I have built the tender chassis and meshed it to the tender body successfully. It looked and ran great until the motor vacuumed up a tiny snapped off end of a drill bit.
    Thanks, Tom

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomcook View Post
    At long last, a progress report.


    The loco is now ready for the paint shop but I will hold off until I have finished the 'as yet barely started' tender.

    Attachment 102971 Attachment 102973
    Wow! What a beauty! Looking forward to seeing it all painted (I am willing to wait however long that will be)

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    Quote Originally Posted by 56Pontiac View Post
    Wow! What a beauty! Looking forward to seeing it all painted
    Thank you kind Sir.

    Quote Originally Posted by 56Pontiac View Post
    (I am willing to wait however long that will be)
    Err, could be quite some time due to the above mentioned motor issues. Here is a photo of the naughty drill bit end. Grrrrr
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    Last edited by tomcook; 26th May 2019 at 07:15 PM.
    Thanks, Tom

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    Perhaps a magnet in front could be part of cleaning track?

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    Well, I should have been working on my home today but instead decided to finish the tender There are no photos of it hitched to the Mallet as said Mallet is in bits awaiting a new motor

    This is a tiny little tender of only 5000 gallons capacity. I have put a fair amount of led in it to get it to ride well when pulling a heavy train.

    The chassis frame, trucks, coal load and doors are from various Bachmann tenders. The trucks being Spectrum. Unfortunately my bad photography doesn't show off all the nice rivet detail I painstakingly added. The drawbar is made from brass and is screwed in place as it will be to the loco too. I do this on all my builds to keep the wires from ripping. It is now ready for decals. Decals are on order from Canada and will take a little while to get here.

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    Sorry for the bad photo quality. Black on white is asking too much from my little camera !
    Thanks, Tom

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    Success success, I fitted a new (second hand) motor and rebuilt the body that had been torn apart to remove the dead motor and set her on the tracks.

    Some pre viewing information, She is pulling 26 cars. Many of which are NOT free rolling . At 0.50 she starts climbing a 2.2% grade with a 9"radius curve through the tunnel . The ticking sounds are the spring worms jumping on the gears under the strain . At 0.50 and 1.00 she encounters 8" radius curves while the train of cars are still negotiating the 2.2% uphill 9" curve through the tunnel . All the extra lead I packed in her paid off. There are no close ups as the bodywork is still rough after her strip down. Photos will follow later once she has received paint and decals.



    What you've seen in the video is a test, NOT normal operating conditions. I also tested her on a straight 4.4% test track and she pulled over 40 cars !! Her week link is the spring worms meshing to the gears in the truck towers especially when taking sharp curves under heavy loads. She is rather noisy, again, this is those naughty spring worms. If Arnold had used bass worms, this 'beast' would pull a house down

    All in all, I am VERY impressed with her performance. I have only a Bachmann 2-10-2 that can out pull her through the corners but even that can't match her on a straight climb. Low speed creep is acceptable too. She does run quieter and smoother under a lighter load. I think she does the prototype proud and is declared fit for work
    Thanks, Tom

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    To put the Mallet's performance into perspective, here is a short video of my Atlas Trainmaster pulling the same train up the 2.2% and it hasn't yet encountered the 9"radius curve in the tunnel !! A few pre watch words:@Spookshow says in his revue of this loco it has 'exceptional pulling power' I am inclined to agree. it is my strongest pulling diesel by far. Also to be remembered, many of the cars in the train are anything but 'free wheeling' Some are older than me !!! Note, I am giving it a good run at the climb, more than the Mallet.

    This video is dedicated to Mr.Moose2013 and all other 'steam over diesel' fans.



    VIVE LE MALLET mort aux diesels !!!!
    Thanks, Tom

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    Cool! She really looks good running along the track (and will of course look better with her makeup applied).

    Loooooooooong train, she almost catches her own tail

    You must own every Canadian Pacific freight car ever made, eh?

    Dave

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    Quote Originally Posted by 56Pontiac View Post
    You must own every Canadian Pacific freight car ever made
    My budget dictated that I painted and lettered over half of them myself. I have a whole stack of passenger cars awaiting painting but I can't find Tuscany red in europe and nobody wants to send paint overseas. I don't know what the score is with that, security ? Even the UK won't send it to France
    Thanks, Tom

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    Steam rules!! Woohoo!!!!

    That was a great video, thanks!

    Did I say Steam rules!!
    Northern Pacific and Black Hills RR in N, of course!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by tomcook View Post
    ... I have a whole stack of passenger cars awaiting painting but I can't find Tuscany red in europe and nobody wants to send paint overseas. I don't know what the score is with that, security ? Even the UK won't send it to France
    Probably shipping constraint for volatile/flammable paints - try searching for "Tuscany red water based paints" I found lots, might even be in local craft stores by you, but should be no shipping constraints. I use acrylic paints for small things, works fine ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomcook View Post
    I have a whole stack of passenger cars awaiting painting but I can't find Tuscany red in europe and nobody wants to send paint overseas.
    Did you look here? It is expensive.
    https://www.amazon.fr/Deco-Art-Ameri.../dp/B001E0015E

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scotian_Huntress View Post
    Did you look here? It is expensive.
    https://www.amazon.fr/Deco-Art-Ameri.../dp/B001E0015E
    That price is just stupid. Does nowhere in Europe make acrylic paint? Here in America we can buy it for under $5 - https://www.amazon.com/Darice-Decoart-Americana-Acrylic-Tuscan/dp/B0013AOZO8/ref=sr_1_5?keywords=tuscan+red+water+based+paint&q id=1560251681&s=hi&sr=1-5-catcorr

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    Well chaps and chapettes, Here we are, after six months of tears and joy, the 'OFFICIAL' builders photographs.

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    I had contemplated long and hard about painting her in her 'as delivered' gray and black livery and even went so far as to start painting her as such. But as I have modeled her in her 'after rebuild' state and am a sucker for authenticity, black it was.


    Although it was worth it, I won't do such a complex chassis rebuild again. There were too many times that I strayed too far from the aspects of modeling that I enjoy and came close to throwing the towel in !!! Still, I am so very happy to have succeeded and have this amazing loco on my roster. She is not only dimensionally accurate but most importantly for me, she captures the brute feel of the prototype


    I would like to say a BIG thank you to all of you for your help and encouragement throughout this build. An especially big thank you @Scotian_Huntress for dangling a photo of the prototype in front of my nose last year. Yep, you're to blame
    Thanks, Tom

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    @tomcook
    You are very welcome - it has been an inspirational build - very well done.

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    Default Not done yet!

    So, now you have to model the engineer, fireman, and ??? from TALL to short and inbetween ... maybe as challenging as a fairy, eh?

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    As they say up in Canadania - beauty, eh?

    -Mark

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    I'm so happy to see this one completed! Looks fabulous, too bad about the noise I'm really impressed by that pull, I usually need to hook up 4 geeps to pull a train that it probably could!
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