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    As a brand new modeler, would I be just as well off with Bachmann to start or is Kato that much superior?
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    Kato by far.

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    Generally speaking, Kato locomotives are superior to Bachmann's (particularly when it comes to quality control). Of course if you want steam locomotives, Bachmann has a much more robust selection than Kato.

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    Thanks guys
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    you're welcome :d

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    That is like comparing apples and oranges. Go with Kato you won't be disappointed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ike8120 View Post
    That is like comparing apples and oranges. Go with Kato you won't be disappointed.
    Unless you prefer an orange to an apple

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    kato vs bachmann....

    if you have a one to one choice, Kato is better.
    this is unqualified.

    here is the problem with the comparison
    b-mann's qualities over the range of what they sell is far wider than
    the comparison to any other company.

    lets pick the b-mann /spectrum 2-8-0 as the best they have ever made...
    a good example is as good as a kato mikado.
    so that is a peak... and I do not know what I think is about the worst...

    the diesels are... lets call it over priced for what you get.
    and I guess I'd have to point at the 4-4-0 as a problematic loco.
    the overall size means you will have problems in n-scale no matter what.
    so that means you can't have flaws in quality control for the loco to escape
    valid complaints about track performance.
    Ah, and there is the rub, b-mann does not do 'quality control' as far as I can see.

    If Kato or Atlas makes what you want , save your coin and get their offerings.
    If b-mann has what you want, look for alternatives first.
    and demand heavy discounts from b-mann.
    I love steam and PRR and I have yet to buy one of their K4.
    b-mann and I have a strong disagreement over the price.

    to some extent the comparison of the two companies is unfair to Kato.
    Kato is usually worthy of praise and they have earned it.
    If Kato has a lack, it is that they do not make more NA locos...
    get a Kato FEF for about the best steam engine one can buy.
    after that...

    roll back to this forum and ask for opinions about the loco you are considering.
    and If you find an Atlantic on the bay, come tell me. :-D

    victor
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    Kato all day long

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    If you are buying your first steam engine, buy a Kato Mikado 2-8-2. It is the gold standard in N scale in my opinion.

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    So I have to find what engines were used for the period I'm looking at first. Thanks for the help!
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    Considering everyone had Mikados basically until the 1950s, I'll assume I'm safe with them on my layout. The 3 big boys during the 40s-60s in SE Louisiana were the Southern, Illinois Central and Southern Pacific. We also had the L&N, ARK/LA, Rock Island, Mo Pacific, GM&O, KC Southern and the Cotton Belt. I've got tons of options!!
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    Has anyone ever heard of Graham Farish trains? They're out of the UK but owned by Bachmann.
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    Quote Originally Posted by True2LSU View Post
    Has anyone ever heard of Graham Farish trains? They're out of the UK but owned by Bachmann.
    Yes, Moose have several Graham Farish locomotives. Very nice runners, and nice detailing.
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    Thanks Moose. We're now doing the London to Oxford line since my wife's grandmother is from their. It should be fun with the elevation changes and crossing the river 3 times.
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    OoooO!!!! take and share some photos!

    that sounds like a treat.

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    Gotta do some research first lol. I did, however connect with Club from England so it may not be as hard as I thought.
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    Quote Originally Posted by victor miranda View Post
    OoooO!!!! take and share some photos!

    that sounds like a treat.

    victor
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    What Victor said, please post photos!
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    I have both of them, Kato is my first preference. Bachman is okay if you are a lucky person. Lot of details, run ok if you catch one good. DCC on Bachman steamers offered by Soundtrax it's a cruel joke, sound like generic crap. locomotive run okay, but decoder should be discarded and replaced with a Zimo or Loksound. Both loco Berkshire and K4 sound like no steamer at full speed. Like said above, if KATO have more diversity in American steamers, i would not buy another brand. Look here at this one with Zimo decoder. Run perfect, sound great, not even Loksound have the same bass and motor control like this one. Regarding mechanical part, maybe i was lucky, i did not have any trouble with this locomotive.
    https://youtu.be/LJbrx_ciN6o

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    One of the major problems in N is that you really can't trust brand names 100%, and Bachmann has had the entire scale of design and quality from second-worst POS all the way up to excellent at times.

    You'll learn to go immediately to Spookshow's N scale cyclopedia to check anything out before you buy it.

    My 1972 ATSF diesel fleet is about 80% Kato. I also have a Bachmann 44-tonner that has proven to be excellent, a doodlebug that literally had it's wheels fall off from white gear splitting although it was hardly ever run, and an entire drawer of legacy Bachmann locomotives reduced to piles of semi-useful parts.

    If you really want something to just run...and run... and run.... your odds are in your favor with Kato, although even they have had glitches with split gears on the NW2, and issues with DCC shorts and gears on the GS-4. The odds are a lot more stacked against you on Bachmann, particularly on the 'split gear' issues that often don't show up for years. If you like to tinker and figure you can fix about anything, well, have at it. If you can't even pull a shell off a frame, I'd stick with Kato, but there are certainly outstanding designs in Bachmann as well as complete with a blue dress on.
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