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    Default The Canadian Pacific Pacific !! build

    OK, here we have it, a project to keep me happy while awaiting a replacement motor for my CP Mallet build. It's CP#1200. A G5a pacific built in 1944 who's sister #1201 is preserved and, in working order I do believe.
    1200a.jpg
    The base for the project is an old Rivarossi Pacific
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    At first glance they look very similar and are dimensionally very close. Great I thought, Swap the cab and a few details and bob's your uncle !! No, not to be, on close inspection almost everything is wrong. What started out to be an easy kitbash has turned into a full loco build. Only the boiler is being kept. So I cut off the cab, the running boards, the hand rails, all the pipe work and reshaped the domes with lots of filing and sanding.
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    Next up was fitting a Miniatures by Eric cab as I had ordered a few of these and despite not loving them I wasn't in the mood for scratch building one.
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    After the cab came the running boards (not fun, look at the tapered boiler !!) and a funny box in front of the smoke stack. No idea what it is but it's now fitted !
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    That's as far as I've got for the moment. This project will get derailed shortly with 'hopefully' the arrival of the Mallet's new motor. I will also be working away from home for a while that will slow up activity. Oh, and the tender doesn't measure up. So I'll have to build it too from nowt ! Nothing easy with this loco !
    Thanks, Tom


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    Quote Originally Posted by tomcook View Post
    a funny box in front of the smoke stack. No idea what it is but it's now fitted
    The 'funny looking box' is the only visable part of a Worthington type SA feedwater heater.
    As a matter of interest, I had a Van Hobbies G5 in HO brass years ago and it had an Elesco feedwater heater, the type with the Elesco cylander above the smokebox.
    Speaking of which, (and not being picky) the smokebox needs to move back a bit, but the cab really makes for an excellent look!!

    https://www.steamlocomotive.com/appl...aterheater.php
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    Quote Originally Posted by mosslake View Post
    Speaking of which, (and not being picky) the smokebox needs to move back a bit,
    Ooops !! Well spotted. I hadn't seated the body properly onto the chassis. I must be getting old Here, rectified photos:
    IMG_9000 (2).jpg IMG_9002 (2).JPG IMG_9003 (2).JPG

    The smokebox is about 2mm too long as can be seen by the distance between the smoke stack and the smokebox door. I think I will live with it
    Thanks, Tom

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    Quote Originally Posted by mosslake View Post
    The 'funny looking box' is the only visable part of a Worthington type SA feedwater heater.
    Ah, another crumb of knowledge added to the rich tapestry of life. Thank you. Sometimes I feel a bit of a fool building things and not knowing what they are. My understanding of the workings of steam locomotives has gone from 0 to 0.1 since I joined this site
    Thanks, Tom

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomcook View Post
    Sometimes I feel a bit of a fool building things and not knowing what they are.
    Not at all Tom!! The exchange of ideas and information is what these forums are all about!! Different people have expertise and /or knowledge in different fields and willing to share which helps greatly in our work on models.
    your G5 looks even better with the boiler moved back.
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    Loving your builds... we never see enough Canadian Steam and I just don't have the skills

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    Quote Originally Posted by grumbeast View Post
    Loving your builds... we never see enough Canadian Steam and I just don't have the skills
    Thank you.

    I don't think we see enough steam full stop !!! I think the Bachmann 4-6-0 isn't a million miles from a CP D10. If you cut the cab off and glue on a cab from 'Miniatures by Eric', a lick of paint and some decals from 'Black cat publishing' will give you a pretty close representation. Having just said that, I've not actually looked at the Bachmann next to a D10 Give it a try and see what happens ? Your skills are there to be discovered and honed
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    Cheers,

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    Up date on #1200.

    I have finished detailing the engine with handrails steam pipes etc. and it's now ready for the paintshop. 'My brush' !!!

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    Once the painting is finished I will fit glazing and window bars.

    Next up is turning this :

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    Into this:

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    I will fit Bachmann Spectrum all wheel pickup trucks and cut down the coal bunker. I will aso sand off the crude rivet detail, fit hand rails and build the coal bunker extension. A few other details too.

    That's all for now
    Thanks, Tom

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    Some progress on the tender. Maybe I should say 'tender progress'

    I have had a fun time chopping sanding and shaping it. It's now ready for handrails and then rivet decals. Oh, and a rear light. This will be directional as I found a job lot of 12v LEDs with built in one way system for the current. Good old ebay !!!

    The right side showing the corner steps. The water hatch is from 'Miniatures by Eric' I'm rather pleased with the 'scoop' sanded into the bach of the extended coal bunker
    IMG_9225 (2).jpg

    The Left side. Handrail holes ready drilled. The coal load is from the donner B,mann tender.
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    One of the bundle of directional LEDs from ebay. $6. for ten, or something like that ??
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    That's the lot for now. Updates as and when
    Thanks, Tom

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    I'm happy with how the handrails have turned out, rather smart so I'll give myself a

    I can't say I'm quite so happy with the rear light. But, hey ho, we can't always have a peach

    IMG_9236 (2).jpg IMG_9238 (2).jpg IMG_9240 (2).jpg

    Next comes the rivet decals and then fitting Spectrum trucks and some under frame detail.

    I'm still looking for a nice motor to replace the Rivarossi junk before I paint and decal then marry the tender to the engine.

    Still a way to go and things will be on a go slow for the next six weeks. September should see this loco on the rails
    Thanks, Tom

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    @tomcook

    Looks great Tom! Now, about this waiting until September. Moose no know if Moose can wait sooo long...
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    Quote Originally Posted by tomcook View Post
    September should see this loco on the rails
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    That's asking a long time, even for a Moose, to hold his water!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moose2013 View Post
    Now, about this waiting until September. Moose no know if Moose can wait sooo long...
    August is occupied and well you know it you naughty Moose



    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Schmidt View Post
    That's asking a long time, even for a Moose, to hold his water!
    Eeek, I'm not to sure I want to know what that implies
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    Quote Originally Posted by tomcook View Post
    August is occupied and well you know it you naughty Moose
    Hee hee, Moose know and Moose no can resist a wee bit of fun.
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    A rather successful hours work saw the 'junk' Rivarossi motor swapped out in favour of a nice Kato 5 pole specimen. A bit of milling of the frame and a bit of packing and presto, one nice running loco The Rivarossi gearing is pretty high but at least it runs nice and smooth. The extra torque means it can creep a bit slower too. I'll post a Video when she's all done and up and running.

    IMG_9261 (2).jpg

    The extra length of the motor is not a problem as the CP cab is longer than the original and accommodates it fine.
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    Thanks, Tom

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    Wow, @Moose2013 might dribble a little twice this weekend. First the Big Boy, next this!

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    Well, I've been super naughty this weekend. Instead of doing the half million jobs that urgently need doing, I worked on #1200 and got her finished

    So, without further ado, the unveiling moment:

    Here she is, looking radiant in the low winter sunlight. Her paintwork bright and her domes glittering.
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    And here, blasting through a light snow flurry with the morning mail.
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    Two Queens
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    And, finally, double heading 'The Canadian' on the haul west out of Toronto.
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    As always, a big thank you to you all for accompanying me on the creation of #1200. It wouldn't have been half so much fun on my own
    Thanks, Tom

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    Very nice! The double-heading is particularly nice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 56Pontiac View Post
    The double-heading is particularly nice.
    Page 9 from the book Canadian Pacific in Southern Ontario, Shows a photo of Jubilee #3002 double heading 'The Canadian' with a pacific loco. Though in the photo the pacific is a G3 not a G5. so, as much as I like replicating reality, close but no cigar
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