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    Default Inside a bathtub gon?

    I want to weather some of these bathtub coal gons: https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...own-1807455601

    For some reason I'm coming up dry searching for photos that will show me how worn insides look. I've found a few of cars with rapid discharge gates and see a lot of shiny metal where the coal slides and scrapes off the paint and rust, but the pattern would be completely different when dumpers are used. And I found a video of an unpainted shiny aluminum car, but that's not helpful. Probably photos exist on the www and I'm just googling the wrong keywords. Can anyone post a link or two?

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    I might suggest searching on www.railpictures.net. Quite the archive there and you can search by category, which may help? Maybe spend some time thumbing through those pictures and you should see something eventually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mingles View Post
    I might suggest searching on www.railpictures.net.
    Excellent site but same issue - most searches return > 10k hits and they are 99.999% eye level shots centered on the engine. Closest so far: https://www.railpictures.net/photo/423816/

    I'm searching for drone footage on youtube. Who knew there were drones in the shape of bathtubs!

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    Here's a long shot.
    I know there is one member on this forum that has a drone and has been using it a lot lately to post videos here on NSN for modeling examples.


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    He works for CSX and I know he's shot some coal trains before, but not sure if he'd get lucky enough to catch an empty coal drag with Bathtubs, but it might be worth a shot to ask him?
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    Thanks, good suggestion and message sent to @DJSTRAINS. In the meantime I found this interesting info that at least applies to BNSF cars: http://theweatheringshop.com/kevinbethgon.html Since CSX's cars are aluminum I suspect at least the sides are shiny due to scrubbing by the coal as they are dumped, and if CSX uses the dust inhibitor then they will look like BN's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NtheBasement View Post
    Thanks, good suggestion and message sent to @DJSTRAINS. In the meantime I found this interesting info that at least applies to BNSF cars: http://theweatheringshop.com/kevinbethgon.html Since CSX's cars are aluminum I suspect at least the sides are shiny due to scrubbing by the coal as they are dumped, and if CSX uses the dust inhibitor then they will look like BN's.
    Just to be clear.....You do realize that those are HO scale models... right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Allen H. View Post
    Just to be clear.....You do realize that those are HO scale models... right?
    Not that we never model a model, but according to the description the ring is specific to BN PRB cars and I've got CSX cars.

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    I had to take a few pics after we cleaned one out for a client recently. Let me see if I can find them and I will post those here.
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    @NtheBasement,
    You've pretty much answered the question yourself. the interiors won't be rusty unless they're steel cars and have been out of use for a long time.
    I'm a railroader in Australia but the cars are similar in that they are either aluminium or stainless steel. The reason being is the sulphur content of coal eats out a steel car like you wouldn't believe.
    Also coal dust will adhere to the interior sides after dumping, whether the coal has a dust suppressant added or not. and if the coal is wet -for any reason, treatment, additives rain, etc, then you'll see patches of the car interior, and coal dust covering much of it.
    Also look for photos of the end platforms, we used to get a buildup of coal on the ends too.
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    I have shots looking down on some bathtub gons, but I have no idea where they are (14,000 photos to look through). But I do know the shots of the weathering solutions cars are spot on. They base their cars off prototype photos.
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    The more I look the murkier it gets.
    Is there a way to find out if these specific cars are aluminum, stainless, or steel?

    Bottom discharge cars have very specific patterns, shiniest (or rusted if not recently used) on the sloped sheets heading down toward the doors. The shine is much more pronounced at the bottom of the sheets than the top because they get abraded during the entire unloading process under a lot more weight relative to up slope.

    theweatheringshop's cars have the ring not just at the ends but on the sides. Not sure I can make sense of that.
    Logically I would then expect that during rotary dumping there wouldn't be any dust left on the top edge of the most recent dump's downhill side. The pattern I see on the aluminum cars in this video is black on the end wall tops only, not the sides: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxioX4eCcE8

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    On theweathershop’s site he mentions that only BNSF spray’s a glue like substance over the coal to keep the dust down..this causes the marks you are referring to on the inside.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mosslake View Post
    That settles it, I'm going with aluminum. That means I need to make the entire insides shine, with a little coal dust left on the bottoms of the tubs and some silver on the top edges where the dumper clamps set. I've used pewter pan pastels to weather a bottom discharge hopper but I don't think that will coat evenly enough for these cars. I'll shop for some silver brush paint and get started with this project.

    Thanks everyone for your help!

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    @DJSTRAINS took a few pics and send them to me, posting this one here in case someone needs to weather an aluminum coal gon in the future. And thanks Dominic, really appreciate the help!
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    Cool! Glad DJ could help.
    That will be and easy and quick project!
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