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    Looks like a serious layout! Have you counted how many turnouts you need yet?

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    40+ turnouts. I have 20 or so bought already and have about 75% of the track I'll need. Loaded up on Code 55 flex track at a train show a few years back and stocked up on turnouts before the shortage when Atlas moved their manufacturing plant. I will probably end up with certain pieces of track I won't need. Stocked up on DPM, Model Power, etc. buildings over the years as well. There will be a big sale and giveaways offered to users of nscale.net when the time comes for items that can't be used on the layout.
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    Good news, everybody! I completed my layout tonight. It's a simple oval set in the winter where locomotives are always checked by radar with the local railroad police.

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    OK, just kidding. This is the lower level of my Engine / Car Facility which I'll use for programming and speed matching (Thanks Allen) my fleet.
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    Just a suggestion Jim.
    Instead of an oval, I'd use a circle.
    With a circle there is an ever present friction from the outer rail in circle.
    In a oval once the locos hit the straight section there is no longer friction or resistance and it can speed up
    slightly.

    But nonetheless, it's cool to see you have a nifty place for it.
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    Hey Allen,

    I hadn't thought of that, thanks! Time for the Accutrack III that's curved.
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    IMHO it depends on what you want to do with it - a circle is better for constant speed (and I think the Accutrack II should fit over a reasonable radius curve as well?) but if you want to run in locos, I'd prefer an oval, so the trucks get moved a bit (a figure eight would be even better, but who wants to commit that space to a run-in track?). Plus it's much easier to rail and re-rail locos on a straight - particularly steam

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    Started construction for my lift-out bridge yesterday using the Lance Mindheim design approach. Attached are some photos of the first bracket installed which is designed to make the bridge fully adjustable to compensate for foundation shifts in the house, humidity, etc. Also attached is a photo for testing some great LED lights I found on Amazon for $60.00. Ten pack of 4-foot connectable lights running at 5000 Kelvin. Good deal at $6 a light!

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    The LED lights are indeed great. You could use one behind the camera when next you take photos of the bridge mounting. I could hardly see anything in these pics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbobones View Post
    Attached are some photos of the first bracket installed which is designed to make the bridge fully adjustable
    I applaud the design goal... however I'm not really seeing how the adjustability happens. You say this is based on a Mindheim approach; is there a link you can provide to show how this works?

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    Quote Originally Posted by WP&P View Post
    I applaud the design goal... however I'm not really seeing how the adjustability happens. You say this is based on a Mindheim approach; is there a link you can provide to show how this works?
    https://lancemindheim.com/about-us/removable-bridge/
    Comments from experience with my aisle-spanning bridge follows.
    After initial track laying I've never had to adjust up/down or left/right. But the length of the gap narrows by an eighth inch or so in winter compared to summer, which I attribute to humidity changes. If you don't solder some of Lance's rerailer tracks you can close the gap by sliding them on the rail joiners.
    It is possible to wire the layout so that the approach tracks are dead if the bridge is absent. This involves a plug at each end; otherwise you have to run wire all the way around the layout to the other side.
    In lieu of a hinged bridge you will need a handy place to put the bridge when it is out.

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    @el Gato Gordo,

    Sorry about the photos, quick shots with my cell phone. Attached are some better ones taken with a real camera (Nikon D750). I've just ordered two more of the Atlas 2070 Bridges to complete the span of 45 inches. The bridges are 10 inches each so, I'll put up a small "guardrail" on each end if necessary for safety.


    @NtheBasement,

    Thanks for sharing the link to Lance Mindheim's site! I was in a hurry when I made my post and didn't include it. Also, thanks for the insight on the rail gaps. I'll have to monitor it over the seasons and see which ways it wants to shift. I think I'll not solder the rail joiners like you mentioned to give me more wiggle room. I plan on putting a hanging bracket under the layout to store the bridge when not in use. Now that the bridge has been put up temporarily for testing, I've ducked under it a dozen times or so with no issues. As of today, I'm still able to do it but building for the future when ducking under may become more difficult. As far as wiring, I plan on running a buss line all the way around to the other end with a booster in between and not use the bridge to complete the circuit. Going to use the design where if the bridge is lifted out, about a foot of track or so leading up to the bridge on each side is dead preventing locos from going into the "canyon".

    To all,

    Here's a link to the LED's I bought if you are interested;
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    Thanks for that link, @NtheBasement. Just so happens I'm starting to mull over a lift bridge for expanding the Slate Fork.

    I check in on Lance's site every other month or so. I've just passed over that link and would have forgotten about it until now.

    Darn, now I've looked at his East Rail layout, and yet again I'm wondering if I could morph it into Florida East Coast on a HCD. ...

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    @Paul Schmidt ...

    I too visit Lance's site every month or so for updates from him. I've read every blog of his, some repeatedly. He provides fantastic advise on the hobby and I take what he writes to heart. I've actually emailed him a few times with questions and he's always responded back in a timely matter. My goal is to design like Lance and build scenery like Luke Towan - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjR...74mTg1vrQ6uA5A

    If I can get even near their expertise, I'll be one happy railroader!

    To all,

    Not much work on the layout this weekend, just rough cut some blue foam and organized the room.

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    Well seeing that my pneumatic staple gun I use to fasten the 1/4" decking to the framework died last night, it gave me some time to work on the bridge some more. After spending about 3 hours with the gun, taking it apart, cleaning and reassembling it 4 times, I gave up on it because the seals were shot. Sat for 15 years unused and not worth fixing so I ordered a new one today. Below are some pictures of my lift-out bridge. Two more Atlas 2070 Truss bridges will be here Thursday. I'll start assembling them and hopefully have the bridge section properly mocked up before the weekend.

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    Finally finish my two Atlas 2070 Truss Bridges I ordered. Had a heck of a time with my Dull Cote and did not like the appearance so, I went back and painted all 4 bridges matte black using the same paint I used on the wooden structure for the bridge. Below are some photos of the finished look. Now onto bigger and better things which include another run to Home Depot this week for the remaining supplies I'll need to complete all of the framework.

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    The all-black makes it look really sharp. Well done.

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    Did a little work on the south valance tonight. Raised it one inch for where it was previously installed, and added LED lighting for a mock-up test. Also test fitted some 1/8" hardboard in the corner for "curve-ability". The sheets I have are more flexible than I imagined. Hopefully they will hold paint well. BTW, all of my 1/8" hardboard pieces you see were free. There's a company in Saginaw, Texas that makes pallets, wooden wire spools, etc. They are nice enough to put their scraps out by the street and let the general public take what's there. Usually they have 3/4" plywood pieces either rectangular or in the shape of circles (wire spool ends that weren't quite round) which I've gathered on a few occasions. One morning while driving by on the way to work, my wife noticed a large stack of 1/8" hardboard. I turned around quickly and loaded my trunk with about 50 pieces of the stuff. Typically any wood they put out is gone by the next day and there was a chance of rain so, I wasn't going to miss out!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbobones View Post
    The sheets I have are more flexible than I imagined. Hopefully they will hold paint well.
    It will hold paint much better with a good coat of high-hide white primer!

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    Got my backdrop panels primed and painted along with the rest of the blue/pink foam panels after a Home Depot / Lowes to pick up the remaining brackets, lumber, hardware, glue, etc. Also picked up my new brad nailer / staple gun which is working flawlessly. I completed the rest of my bench work framing, decked it and glue the painted foam pieces down with Liquid Nails for Project. Some shots of my progress over the past couple of days are shown below.

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    You're rocking it (that is the correct hipster term, right. I dunno.)

    Indeed, a nailer makes benchwork much easier. I'm looking forward to using my new DeWalt for something other than home-improvement projects!

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