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    Default Adding Sound to DC?

    Has anyone dabbled in adding sound to DC locomotives? Since getting my Light Mountain with Sound, it sure adds a lot...

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    Haven't dabbled in it, but there's a few sound systems out there that could add some more sound immersion for you. Likely cheaper and easier as well in the long run.

    I know kato has one, with a bunch of different sound cards.
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    It might just be easier to get a dual function sound decoder? That's what I do and it works well
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    you are exploring an area where I have some answers and some questions.

    ... the reason most guys that want sound go into DCC is because the sound generators are computer based.
    Since DCC decoders are computer based, the two go hand in hand.
    adding DCC functionality to a sound generator system is easy.

    The other reason most guys use DCC for operating the sound system is ease of access to the sound controls.
    pressing a button to activate the bell or whistle is a little tough for DC control.

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    The DCC Sound Bachmann Light Mountain seems to be smart enough that, when running on DC, it will respond with the throttle. When it starts out, there's a steam release, the bell starts ringing and the chuffing corresponds with the throttle. After a bit, the bell shuts off. I can't access the whistle, but it's still nice. I guess I assumed that's how all of them worked. Kato unit is probably the way to go, then.

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    Why not convert to DCC?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gatrhumpy View Post
    Why not convert to DCC?
    I knew this post was coming...

    so far in my trials of DCC, I am not convinced the problems I have are solved by DCC.

    DCC with sound makes the n-scale problem of ineffective power pick-up VERY clear.
    Sound uses more power and you can hear the decoder resetting.
    This is clear proof that the loco is losing power pick-up... so one must find room for
    a large capacitor. And as I like the smaller locos, that detail adds to the difficulties.

    The additional expense and time to do the loco conversions also adds to the reason not to go DCC.

    about the time you add sound to your locos, you are going DCC anyway. I agree.
    this last point is a lot of why one has to have a few locos with decoders before
    'going DCC'

    I do not like the sound of a DC loco running on a DCC system.
    a DC loco just sitting on a live DCC track is a situation I would avoid.

    while I have a few decoders and a couple of sounders I am not considering 'going DCC'

    better pick-ups, smaller AND cheaper decoders, especially the sound versions will need to happen first.
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    I am not sure if this will be helpful or not but here is a thread I started awhile back on the Kato Sound Box. https://www.nscale.net/forums/showth...Kato-Sound-Box

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    I have placed caps in very small engines. In fact, my SD-26 had upwards of 2100mF of capacitance in it when I installed the sound decoder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave S View Post
    I am not sure if this will be helpful or not but here is a thread I started awhile back on the Kato Sound Box. https://www.nscale.net/forums/showth...Kato-Sound-Box
    I have a Kato sound box and I love it! I have several sound cards for it. It never occurred to me, as I read in your thread, to have more than one. I run it through an old Sony surround-sound system, including a passive sub-woofer, and it sounds excellent through the line-outs of the Kato box, which provides a high-fidelity audio signal.

    However, although Kato claims it modulates sound based on BEMF, I could never "make" my sound box react to BEMF (i.e., by holding the loco while gunning the throttle). The box's sound FX buttons are fun, though!




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    I know that fits a niche market, but the fact that the sound does not follow the locomotive bothers me. Some people don't mind that in exchange for better sound.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gatrhumpy View Post
    I know that fits a niche market, but the fact that the sound does not follow the locomotive bothers me. Some people don't mind that in exchange for better sound.
    Yeah, I was fine with that trade for better sound. I did buy a BLI Rolling Thunder sub-woofer/receiver and one BLI compatible loco and am excited to hear that hooked up someday.

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    Sounds exciting!

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