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    Default Experience with cassettes?

    I've seen cassettes in the magazine articles, but does anyone have any honest, real experience with them? If so... What do you think of them?

    Would you use them again on your next layout?

    How do you prevent accidents while moving the cassettes around?

    How many cassettes do you end up using?

    How long did you make them?

    Do you have any photos detailing their construction and how it attaches to your layout?

    Inquiring minds want to know.
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    OK -- I give up --- what are cassettes -?
    (Besides the old music ones)

    Thanks,
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    Quote Originally Posted by ranulf View Post

    How do you prevent accidents while moving the cassettes around?

    How many cassettes do you end up using?

    How long did you make them?
    @ranluf,
    I've never used any or built any but a couple of thoughts.

    The first question above, I would have the same thoughts as you. I've seen some where guys have added foam to the insides, while others have placed a lid on them with foam under the lid and when pressed down gently they keep things stable for the move?

    How many? I would think two would be more than sufficient? Load one and attach it to the layout, and the second one could be loaded and ready to replace the first one?

    Size? Long enough for the train or cars that you want to move off the on or off the layout. If it gets too long you could alway make them two tracks wide to reduce the length?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SP-Wolf View Post
    OK -- I give up --- what are cassettes -?
    (Besides the old music ones)

    Thanks,
    Wolf
    Tom uses his as an added staging yard due to the lack of space.
    https://youtu.be/aiuF1Fq-UAw

    Others use them to move whole trains or blocks or cars on or off the layout.

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    While I've seen a lot of fold-down and removable staging tracks before, that video is the first I've ever seen the term "cassette" applied to the concept...
    Not trying to argue or anything. Let me just specify what I'm thinking of.

    No, I was thinking along the lines of a removable piece used "to move whole trains or blocks or cars on or off the layout" as Allen put it.

    I didn't think of looking at YouTube but I suppose I should have. I did find this video that better describes what I'm asking about:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ijq6MolSW8

    That cassette looks to be built straight out of the magazine article I saw, made from aluminum angle screwed to plywood and all... I'm not sure that actually makes anything easier than just using track on a plank with something for sides glued to the plank....
    Also, I can't help but feel there's some better solution for keeping the rolling stock from going over the edge than those end pieces.... I think having adjustable ends that you can put closer to the ends of the rolling stock on the cassette might be better... Maybe end blocks with pins that slip in holes drilled along the track.... That way whether there's 1 or 10 cars on the cassette it doesn't have far it could roll....

    But that begs the question again, how long is too long for a cassette? Guess it depends on maneuverability.
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    Thanks, for the clarification.

    I like the concept.

    Interesting use of the word "cassette".

    Wolf

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    I use the plastic protector tubes for T8 fluorescent lights. I cut a little flap that folds down between the rails one one end. On the other, I secure a soft foam stopper. Lately I've been gluing a 1/16th inch slice of 1/4 inch lathe to the inside to act as rails.

    With the engine pushing the train, it drives right into the tube or right out once the engine is back on the track. Stuff in another stopper of soft foam and set it in a rack made of pieces of 1/2 inch blue foam glued together.

    Tomorrow I can post photos.

    This really expedites set up and tear down at train shows. I generally run 8 trains (not simultaneously) on my little layout.
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    I've seen them at train shows. it's more convienient than a fixed staging yard, no turnout ladder taking space. The whole train can be turned in one go as well.
    I've seen them typically on English layouts and using short trains to make them managable.
    Some visuals for you
    https://burrowa.wordpress.com/2013/0...on-the-layout/
    http://www.zen98812.zen.co.uk/cassettes.html

    Other discussions on the subject
    https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/in...ard-cassettes/
    http://cs.trains.com/mrr/f/88/p/149310/1747422.asphttp
    www.railroad-line.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=45630&whichpage=24
    x
    https://irishrailwaymodeller.com/top...ssette-loader/
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    cool thanks for that

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    Okay, I promised photos and I'm late. So here is a photo and a brief video on how they are used. This is an Austrian Rail Jet being pushed into the tube by its engine, an Rh 1116:



    The little ramp I cut fits between the rails, and I folded the side lips of the tube slightly to facilitate entry. The trains just drive in until the engine loses power. One caveat: double-stack container cars won't fit in a T8 tube; you probably need to try a T12 tube protector for those. Might not work, but these things are only $4, so worth a try.

    Once the train is in the tube, I secure the end with a piece of foam. I once found a couch in the ditch on my way home and I salvaged the cushions. Once the fabric was stripped off I use them to pad the layout in the horse trailer and also as stopper on these tubes.

    I cut strips of 1/2" blue foam and glued them to a 48" x 18" piece of foam board to make a rack to hold the tubes. Here is a photo of several tubes in the rack as I get ready for a small show this coming Saturday:

    2019-07-31 08.28.45.jpg

    So that is how I use "cassettes."
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    As an addendum to the above post, just before the train enters the tube you can see the little - 1/16th by 1/4 inch - strip of wood I glued inside the tube to act as rails. This keeps the cars from twisting in the tubes during transit. The end of the wood has been sanded to a point so the wheels follow on, and sanded to a slope so the axles don't snag on the end of the wood.
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    Gordon, thanks for those photos. What a very simple, clever, and cheap solution.
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    No cassettes here, but I did ponder on them seriously when I modeled British OO.

    Instead, how about an -- wait for it -- 8-track staging yard. Get it? The staging yard has eight tracks and. ...oh, never mind.

    (I'll be here all week, and be sure to tip the waitress.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Schmidt View Post
    No cassettes here, but I did ponder on them seriously when I modeled British OO.

    Instead, how about an -- wait for it -- 8-track staging yard. Get it? The staging yard has eight tracks and. ...oh, never mind.

    (I'll be here all week, and be sure to tip the waitress.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Schmidt View Post
    (I'll be here all week, and be sure to tip the waitress.)
    Oh great... 6 more days to go....I wonder if I can order a Moose stampede.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Schmidt View Post
    No cassettes here, but I did ponder on them seriously when I modeled British OO.

    Instead, how about an -- wait for it -- 8-track staging yard. Get it? The staging yard has eight tracks and. ...oh, never mind.

    (I'll be here all week, and be sure to tip the waitress.)
    Unless of course your layout is a switching layout. We all know that 8-track is a loop system so that's good for a roundy round layout.

    Cassette - switching, because when you get to the end, you need to "rewind".
    8-Track - roundy round, you can play all day without touching the throttle.


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    I've never used cassettes, though I think the most natural way to model with cassettes is using a car float operation. It's basically the real world equivalent.

    Other "whole train" staging alternatives to cassettes I've seen are the sector plate and the train elevator. Less worry over dropping trains.
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    A traverser is another way of staging multiple trains, without needing the space for yard ladders.
    I do like the idea of the elevator... uses vertical space, not horizontal.
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    Cool you learn something new everyday. I been trying to figure out how to make room for a small staging area and this just gave me a great idea on how to pull it off. Thanks.

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