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Thread: Anybody rolling the dice on the BLI SW7/NW2

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    Default Anybody rolling the dice on the BLI SW7/NW2

    Seems lately reviews on BLI have not been the kindest.

    I am excited to see a new model coming to N scale or (SW7) also a switcher with sound!

    I am thinking of going ahead on a pre-order for a couple. Anybody else.

    Not exactly sure what to expect.
    Modeling Steel in N scale

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    Well...just my two cents here.
    I just got an SD70ACe from BLI last month. I had some time over this past weekend to put it the layout. Acquired address 03, set the throttle to 10 and then waited.... nothing, raised throttle to 20 and got very jerky movement. It’s not dirty track because every other locomotive ( Atlas,Kato,IM,ScaleTrains,and Athearn )that I have run perfectly. I have not spent much time looking into the running issue but I took the locomotive off the track and looked at underside of the trucks and noted that there is oil dripping off of them. I hope to have some more time this weekend to look into this further. Stay tuned.

    First BLI and first impression is not the best currently.

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    I’m going to take a chance on the SW7. I’d like to customize one for a friends layout. I know it’s Paragon, but having sound in a switcher from the factory will help add some extra depth to yard jobs.
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    CEO of the Skally Line, an Eastern MN Shortline

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    I'll be getting one (of course).

    -Mark

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpwisc View Post
    I know it’s Paragon, but having sound in a switcher from the factory will help add some extra depth to yard jobs.
    That is what really has me interested. The Steel Mill related portion of my layout is all switchers, as of right now just the couple of Alco S2s from Atlas have sound. I really would like to add more to give operations a added level of dimension
    Modeling Steel in N scale

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    I would wait for @Spookshow's review over gambling to get the pre-order discount.

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    As they are from BLI --- nope!! I'll pass.
    Now, if they offered them without their decoder or any decoder (So I can use a decoder of my choice) -- maybe...

    Wolf

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    Quote Originally Posted by SP-Wolf View Post
    Now, if they offered them without their decoder or any decoder (So I can use a decoder of my choice) -- maybe...
    Not even then. Why spend good money just to be frustrated?

    Kato has a good early version of the NW2. Doesn't have sound like BLI will offer, but what good is sound if the product runs poorly? When BLI can consistently offer locomotives that run as well as Atlas or Kato out of the box and for years afterward, then maybe I'll reconsider.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Schmidt View Post
    Not even then. Why spend good money just to be frustrated?

    Kato has a good early version of the NW2. Doesn't have sound like BLI will offer, but what good is sound if the product runs poorly? When BLI can consistently offer locomotives that run as well as Atlas or Kato out of the box and for years afterward, then maybe I'll reconsider.
    Agreed -- that is why I wrote "maybe" -- I have an AB set of E6's and set of PA's -- both sets now have ESU sound decoders. After these two sets - I am done with BLI - as I cannot afford to do this on every locomotive I purchase of thiers (Especially if I don't want sound at all). I know, other folks have had decent luck with their products. I have not. As it is -- I am not a huge fan of sound equipped locomotives. This is my personal thing -- I do not begrudge others for this. After all -- we all enjoy our "hobby" in our own way.

    My comments on sound may be contradictory -- but, I do enjoy having a couple of sound equipped locomotives. I don't want or need all of them to have sound. My train room is kind of confined -- the sound ends up driving me nuts -- even at low volume.

    Carry on,
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    Default Noob question about BLI reliability

    Newcomer to this whole DCC side of things so i had been tempted by the prospect of getting everything rolled up in one package, but not having any experience with BLI hardware i'm curious what negative experiences folks have run into. Is it drivetrain roughness, motor failures, electronics issues or poor support when you run into problems?

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    Nope. I don't like having DCC with sound pushed down my throat. I guess I'm not BLI's target audience for locomotives. I do have a a couple of their freight car offerings. I am happy with those for what that's worth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by idog View Post
    Newcomer to this whole DCC side of things so i had been tempted by the prospect of getting everything rolled up in one package, but not having any experience with BLI hardware i'm curious what negative experiences folks have run into. Is it drivetrain roughness, motor failures, electronics issues or poor support when you run into problems?

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    Top reasons I've heard is crappy Paragon 3 decoder. Also, while support is great, they estimate 12 weeks for a repair. Some reported multiple trips back to fix a problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingmeow View Post
    Top reasons I've heard is crappy Paragon 3 decoder. Also, while support is great, they estimate 12 weeks for a repair. Some reported multiple trips back to fix a problem.
    Not to start a bashing event -- ( I don't want to discourage folks from purchasing their products) - this is strictly my issue with them.

    This was my issue with them. Support was anything but great. I had questions regarding programming my PA set. So, I EMailed them. I gave them the part number of the set as well as the questions I had -- the reply: They did not recognise the part number I provided. They had no record of producing N scale SP PA's --- "Say what-??" So, out with the BLI decoders and in with ESU --- I must say - the ESU decoder is far superior to BLI unit. The issue was strictly programming ---

    In fact, here is the reply:
    " You're welcome, thank you for including the road numbers even though no where in our records indicate that the engines are N-scale, we will have to take your word for it. The only thing that continues to pop up in our system is an HO scale Alco SP PA3/PAB3/Pa3 set

    Daylight. At least the type of engine is correct even if it is not the proper scale. All of the information regarding the PCM/Loksound models can be found on our support page here:http://www.broadway-limited.com/supportdocumentation.aspx


    That is all we have regarding those models. Due to their age, we do not even have a working model of that type here in the service bay to test or try anything out on. I hope the documentation proves useful, sorry we can not be of more assistance regarding this matter."

    This exchange took place in March of 2017 -- the age of the models -- ?? I cannot believe that they don't keep records of every model they have produced.

    Wolf

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    Thumbs up i have a lot of reading to do

    Thanks everyone, especially for the tip about spookshow.net; what an unbelievable resource!

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    I find that at my age, support is very important!

    Hah, I heard that snicker, @Moose2013!

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    I am waiting for one made by ScaleTrains. BLI give me so much frustration on their last batch of models, i can not swallow anymore. To pay top price for only couple locomotives to be perfect, and to give another 100 buck for headache pills, is not worth. I saw a lot of modeler frustrated by this brand, i do not think anymore to buy models from them. R.I.P. until they start to make good and reliable models.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gamitzu View Post
    I am waiting for one made by ScaleTrains.
    Do you know something that I missed?
    Modeling Steel in N scale

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    Nope, but i hope they will wake up and realize the large gap in N scale modeling. I like they go ahead with Loksound, not a crappy decoder built in garage. If you burn by mistake or stupidity the decoder, you can buy another, you can swap, you can do anything you like. I am the "proud" first batch owner of stupid Paragon 3 decoder mounted with cheap components on AC6000 locomotive. One was perfect, another was burnt from factory. It's a large market on N scale to be filled.

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