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    Default Some promising N scale coverage in MRH

    The October issue of Model Railroad Hobbyist has a feature on an N scale Santa Fe layout set in 1948 in the SoCal orange groves.

    It's more of a layout-planning story than a nicely illustrated feature, so it's a bit underwhelming as a layout feature. However, I like the theme, given that three years ago I was preparing to build an HO scale version of the Venta Spur myself.

    It appears that MRH has another N scale feature in store for the November issue as well.

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    It’s about time. I don’t think I’ve read MRH in six month because of the lack of N Scale. I’ll check this one out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jpwisc View Post
    It’s about time. I don’t think I’ve read MRH in six month because of the lack of N Scale. I’ll check this one out.
    I hear you, Karl. I feel the same way. I subscribe to MRH's Running Extra as well, but everything is so HO-centric.

    One of the excuses publishers give is, "We can only publish what we get." Nonsense. For instance, if MRH or Model Railroader can travel to do a feature on an HO layout like Bruce Chubb's, or send out a stringer do it, then why not with a layout like the Oregon Joint Line, or yours, or @Allen H.'s, just to name a few. Seems like a matter of their personal interest to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Schmidt View Post
    I was preparing to build an HO scale version
    Mr. Schmidt, Could we please keep the language clean on the forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomcook View Post
    Mr. Schmidt, Could we please keep the language clean on the forum.

    Er, um, you bet. Sorry. ....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Schmidt View Post
    ...I was preparing to build an HO scale version of the Venta Spur myself...






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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Schmidt View Post
    I hear you, Karl. I feel the same way. I subscribe to MRH's Running Extra as well, but everything is so HO-centric.

    One of the excuses publishers give is, "We can only publish what we get." Nonsense. For instance, if MRH or Model Railroader can travel to do a feature on an HO layout like Bruce Chubb's, or send out a stringer do it, then why not with a layout like the Oregon Joint Line, or yours, or @Allen H.'s, just to name a few. Seems like a matter of their personal interest to me.
    I agree Paul.
    How many times has Bruce Chubb's layout been featured in magazines? (Don't get me wrong, it's always nice to see it.)
    There's a lot of N scale layouts that have been noted in recent years in forums alone that could be visited and made into a decent article.
    It's not like there's a lack of them anymore.
    To add to your list: Jerry Reising's - Oakville Sub, Daryl Kruse's - Geneva Sub
    , Joe Kasper's BN - Marias Division, Bret Overholtzer's MKT - St. Louis Subdivision, Rodney Edington's (our own @rodsup9000) - Feather River Route and John Percy's - Buffalo and Pittsburgh just to name a few more.
    Heck I bet there's enough that they could include one N scale layout a month and have a solid year of N scale articles?
    Also why not one on the Reid brothers layout "Still running after "X" number of years" Why not visit them again?

    Maybe it's a conspiracy? Maybe Walthers is behind it so they don't have to be bothered to make more N scale kits?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Schmidt View Post
    One of the excuses publishers give is, "We can only publish what we get." Nonsense. For instance, if MRH or Model Railroader can travel to do a feature on an HO layout like Bruce Chubb's, or send out a stringer do it, then why not with a layout like the Oregon Joint Line, or yours, or @Allen H.'s, just to name a few. Seems like a matter of their personal interest to me.
    MRH reached out and connected with me on Linkedin, but never asked any content. I still don't know why they bothered.

    Some of their team is openly anti-N. I asked Ken Patterson why there was no N Scale content for 4 months in his "What's neat this week" video and he told me "You need to see the big picture, there aren't that many N Scalers". There are more of us than there are On3 or S Scale modelers, but they still get plenty of coverage. I can see why N Scale manufacturers are opting out of advertising in MRH.

    If it was my magazine (which it is not) I would be doing some leg work to get a broader spectrum covered. Even Model Railroader makes sure to have N Scale content every month. That's how you get readers to see scale specific ads.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jpwisc View Post
    I asked Ken Patterson why there was no N Scale content for 4 months in his "What's neat this week" video and he told me "You need to see the big picture, there aren't that many N Scalers".
    You know what's funny about that Karl?
    Last July Dave held another open house at his store, Spring Creek Hobbies in Deshler, NE (a quiet little armpit in southeast Nebr).
    One N scaler drove all the way there by himself, Bill Selleck and set up his half of the Galesburg City Job modular layout. (I think he's from Michigan?)
    Regardless, good ol' Ken Patterson was there to do another "What's Neat" episode and when he was interviewing Bill he acted like it was the best thing he'd seen since sliced bread!
    At 4:21 Ken even said he is "So impressed with N scale"
    This guy is so full BS he could've walked out to the nearest field full of cows and they would have ran away due to the smell.

    https://youtu.be/UiOINVLccwE

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    Well, well. Since reading the awesome Ken Patterson comment on N scale, I WILL NO LONGER WATCH WHATS NEAT! He can drop off the earth as far as I am concerned. I just also un-subscribed from that junk on you tube. Man this just irks me!!

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    For some reason all I see is the Sept issue. https://model-railroad-hobbyist.com/

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    Quote Originally Posted by NtheBasement View Post
    For some reason all I see is the Sept issue. https://model-railroad-hobbyist.com/
    https://model-railroad-hobbyist.com/magazine/mrh2019-10

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    Although it is an ** layout, about all I go to MRH for is the B&O/PC Cincinnati West layout thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mu26aeh View Post
    Although it is an ** layout, about all I go to MRH for is the B&O/PC Cincinnati West layout thread.
    And a good layout it is!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mu26aeh View Post
    Although it is an ** layout, about all I go to MRH for is the B&O/PC Cincinnati West layout thread.
    LOL! I see what you did there!
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    Although I have downloaded all the MRH's since they started I can't recall reading one the last 2 years , I read RMC and MR in bed before I go to sleep , don't do that with digital magazines . Plus I hate it when someone promises something will be free forever and then don't keep that promise .
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    Well, some brave soul waded into the pool on the MRH forum and dealt some nice counter punches in favor of our scale. Wyatt, was that you?

    Frankly, I could care less what Ken Patterson has to say about N scale or anything else in the hobby. I find his podcast to be sleep-inducing. I believe Patterson's obtuseness about N scale was the subject of the OP's oblique references.

    But read through the thread and you'll see exactly what I touched on in my second post above: MRH won't generate any in-house N scale articles and won't commission any, but will complain that they get very few N scale submissions because the two N scale magazines corral most of the authors.

    Hmmm, that hasn't seemed to stop MR's N scale coverage the past 10 years or so.

    Well, at least there's one this month in MRH and one scheduled for next. Although I do wonder if these were earlier rejected by MR and the N scale mags. I don't think the Santa Fe layout story would have made it past MR's article review committee, although Tony Koester might have considered it for Model Railroad Planning.
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    I will throw one nod out to Joe Fugate on this subject. He personally called me about 2 years ago and asked me to write an article on my Arizona & California layout. It was definitely a shock to get a call out of the blue from the publisher. At any rate, the layout is nowhere near completion and was in the planning/benchwork/track laying process. I had a nice cover story and some good photos, but the article turned into a layout planning article with a lot of prototype reference. I did get a lot of good feedback through personal messages and e-mails from other modelers, especially those who model after prototypes. All in all, I think Joe really does want to promote the hobby and is not a scale snob, but he is also dealing with a lot of family issues right now that are probably taking him away from the magazine.

    I've stopped following a lot of things on the MRH forums because I think the modeling in general has been watered down. I used to find a lot of good posts on there with folks actually building models and researching what they were doing. You can still find those posts, but it's much more difficult.

    As for Ken... Back when MRH all started, I really liked his segments. He worked on his layout and showed his modeling skills. But his segment has definitely turned into a big advertisement for those manufacturers he takes photos for. Sometimes I think he is an Athearn employee... I'm not a fan of him anymore. When they did their big Colorado roadtrip, just after Caboose moved, his layout visits were all about Ken and what he liked about the layouts, gave the owners very little time to actually talk and answer questions or show their work.
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    I agree that Joe is trying to provide a great service for us.

    Since we're dog piling on Ken, lol, I'll say that I've never been a follower of him or the What's Neat shows or podcasts.
    Nothing against the shows, but like magazines, I just skim through them if I think there's something interesting to me.

    What soured me on Ken was at the last Spring Creek open house this past summer, I noticed him walking around like he owned the place
    and a couple of times when folks approached him, it was like he didn't want to take the time to talk to them.
    I suppose to some extent, if he did, he would have a hard time getting away, kind of like the paparazzi who follows
    the upper class around. But he wasn't didn't seem to do it in a very cordial way, he just walked away.

    What really sealed the deal and left a bad taste in my mouth was in this episode of What Neat, again I only watched it because he interviewed Bill Selleck
    at the open house.
    In this episode one of the guys was showing how to make tarp covered loads, at one point the guy was brushing down the tissue and
    Ken just grabs the bottle of glue, asks if it would speed up the process and starts pouring it over the guys load and makes a hellava mess!
    Really?

    https://youtu.be/UiOINVLccwE?t=625
    Time mark is at 10:25

    All in all the entire episode looked amateurish.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jpwisc View Post
    MRH reached out and connected with me on Linkedin, but never asked any content. I still don't know why they bothered.

    Some of their team is openly anti-N. I asked Ken Patterson why there was no N Scale content for 4 months in his "What's neat this week" video and he told me "You need to see the big picture, there aren't that many N Scalers".
    He needs to see the big picture. N is the only scale that's actually growing in modeler numbers. The editor of Model Railroader (an even bigger HO bastion than MRH) has confirmed it.

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