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    Default Kato 2016-9 Gauge D51...

    I know I am looking around for a Switcher but darn it - I want one of these:

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    Nice locomotive. I have two. Nothing to complain, damn, is a KATO


    I LIKE TO WORK WITH BIG SHIP ENGINES BUT I SPEND MY FREE TIME AROUND N SCALE TRAIN MODELS.

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    Beautiful Locomotive, just keep in mind that it is scale 1:150.

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    1:150th, darn - oh well, I don't think a 10th will make that much difference if being run away from other engines ... I still want one
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    Wasn't meant to discourage you.
    These are narrower gauge locomotives scaled to 1:150 to run on N gauge track.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wombat457 View Post
    I still want one
    Just think of the joy it would bring floating gracefully around the sweeping curves of your newly planned layout compared to that diesel switcher you're thinking of
    Thanks, Tom

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    Drifter - I know you weren't trying to turn me off it and am glad you mentioned the scale difference. All too often we assume N Scale is constantly 1:160th

    Tom - Precisely what I was picturing when I saw it AND it will give my (coff coff) Nickel Plate a run for it's money as well Oh, and just because I bought a switcher, well - that aint gunna stop me from getting one of these, albeit not till my layout (sigh) is ready for it
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    You won't be disappointed with the Kato D51. I have one that runs great. Another brand that sells a D51 is MicroAce. I have 5 of them and they all run very good.

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    I close my eyes to this small difference when i bought the Orient Express. The set is also 1:150 not1:160 like normal N scale. After touching the small beast, i go ahead with C56,C62 x2pcs,9600 and still hunting. I have a doubt on Bachman Consolidation 2-8-0 which if you put beside the another any loco from them, is huge, a lot more high than a 4-8-2 or 2-10-2. I do not have the dimension of this to make my mind clear. I try to find a photo, if not, i will do.
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    Thanks gamitzu and I am with you all the way. The small difference in size won't be noticeable I don't think unless you run the same engine in 1:160 scale side by side. Even then, it may not be that noticeable. Either way, I'm not all that concerned - I just like the engine
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    I like so much the steam locomotives and i am ready to forget the missing 2-3 mm on scale differences. And KATO will remain KATO for me. I want German stemers, but almost all of them stay on old idea of motor in tender, bad pick up, ugly plastic unnatural. I am not sure if i am wrong or not, but i have the filling that 1:150 mm is the England 2mm fine scale. I have to dig on.
    Regarding my D51 , is able to pull without any problem, my 15 passenger car's of Orient Express. It's is a long train, look funny with more than 6-7 cars on my diorama, but i test it. And i suggest also the Kato 9600. Very hard to mount sound decoder in,i was able to fit only Zimo MX648 sub micro sound decoder.
    https://store.sbs4dcc.com/ZimoMX648S...rHardwire.aspx

    This set is also pulled without problem by KATO 9600.
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    From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia:

    2mm scale, often 2mm finescale is a specification used for railway modelling, largely for modelling British railway prototypes. It uses a scale of 2 mm on the model to 1-foot on the prototype, which scales out to 1:152. It is, therefore, similar in size to the slightly larger British N scale at 1:148 and the slightly smaller European/American N scale at 1:160; it predates both versions of N scale. The track gauge used to represent prototype standard gauge (4'8") is 9.42 mm (0.371 in), 0.41 mm wider than commercial 9mm N gauge. Track and wheels are closer to scale replicas than commercial N; the track is only 1 mm high. No ready-to-run models are available in 2mm scale, and although there is some availability of kits and components, some model-making skill is normally required.
    Since 2mm scale is very close to the 1:148 British N scale, a hybrid specification can be modelled by rewheeling proprietary British N scale models to the 9.42 mm track gauge. This hybrid specification results in a track gauge equivalent to 4 feet 6⅞ inches (1394mm), slightly narrower than the prototype 4 feet 8 inches. There is an advantage however in the narrower gauge as this allows more room for the outside motion of outside cylindered steam locomotives which must be overscale in order to function correctly. This approach is often recommended for beginners. However, 2mm-scale and hybrid-scale models do not usually sit well together due to the larger size of the latter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wombat457 View Post
    I know I am looking around for a Switcher but darn it - I want one of these:
    Take the KATO 9600 and you will not regret a second. If i have time, i will do a short movie. Worth all the buck. Also Microace make this beauty. I use to buy from here:
    http://www.newhallstation.com/estore/index.php?cPath=33
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    That is a hell of a nice 2-8-0 gamitzu and something to seriously think about down the road. The price is a little out of my abilities at the moment, with everything else going on here and I think (read as know) my wife would kill me if I bought - quite possibly, literally .
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    Quote Originally Posted by wombat457 View Post
    my wife would kill me if I bought
    Whit mine was more simple. I just say i don't need presents for my birthday because i will do it myself when i want and what i want. When i say Honey i want to buy this one she say. Buy it, even if i say not, you will buy. . But i take care of my half always, like all women she like women's things.
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    My better half isn't quite so understanding at the moment. Normally she would say pretty much what your wife tells you, or, I don't care it's your money. But as of the here and now I still have another $12,000 for pay out on the house over the next month so she is not quite as forgiving when it comes to a "hobby"
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrifterNL View Post
    These are narrower gauge locomotives scaled to 1:150 to run on N gauge track.
    Tony, the Japanese rail system -except for the bullet train- is 3'6" gauge, the same as Queensland, parts of South Australia (Pichi Richi railway), New Zealand, South Africa and many other African railways. The D51 is, prototypically speaking, a smaller engine than, say, a USRA 2-8-2 but because Kato went to a larger scale 1:150 to use N scale track while keeping the overall proportions, the smaller engine is on par with a larger engine in 1:160 so won't look so out of place. The Kato sets of the Swiss RhB are 1:150 scale for the same reason.
    It'd make a good freelance museum/tourist train engine....
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    It is definitely in my future Russ as is the Kato 2-8-0 I think. Who says there's no choice for Steamers
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    True if you want to look beyond the USA
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