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    Quote Originally Posted by wombat457 View Post
    ... maybe try a curved Trestle perhaps
    Dooooo it!

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    I remember you saying that you planned to make all the bents the same and cut them as needed. But I, too, wish it were a little bit longer, with a couple of shorter bents on the ends. But do you have room for a longer trestle?
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    That's a very nice looking trestle.
    Yes I talk to myself, I sometime need expert advise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wombat457 View Post
    To be honest, I have enjoyed building this thing and don't know what I'll do once it is finished ... maybe try a curved Trestle perhaps
    Ummm, now that you mention it, Moose needs to build a curved trestle on MT&P RR layout ... Sooo, if you have mind to building a curved trestle, see how you build it would be of great benefit to this moose! Just sayin'...

    And, by the way, awesome trestle!!! Even if it is straight...
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    I would be reading with great interest too, as I someday in the future need to build Frankenstein Trestle in NH which was about 500' long and curved (technical a bunch of straight sections that formed a curve.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by kingmeow View Post
    Dooooo it!
    That's easy for you to say ... BUT, like Moose, I will probably need a curved Trestle more so than a straight trestle as well so building one is very much on the cards

    Quote Originally Posted by el Gato Gordo View Post
    I remember you saying that you planned to make all the bents the same and cut them as needed. But I, too, wish it were a little bit longer, with a couple of shorter bents on the ends. But do you have room for a longer trestle?
    The more I look at it, the more I wish I had have included two more Bents as you mentioned. That is still not out of the question though. The real question is "...Do I have room for a longer one..." In so far as a straight bridge goes - no I probably don't, at least not that I can tell from the Track Plan; although, that can be modified a little to suit I think. A curved Trestle, on the other hand, could be as long as 36" and ahh noooooo it wont be! It could, on the other hand, be two shorter Curved Trestles of say 12" in length each - maybe

    Quote Originally Posted by big bill View Post
    That's a very nice looking trestle.
    Thanks mate, appreciate it. We'll see how well it turns out when it is completed though

    Quote Originally Posted by Moose2013 View Post
    Ummm, now that you mention it, Moose needs to build a curved trestle on MT&P RR layout ... Sooo, if you have mind to building a curved trestle, see how you build it would be of great benefit to this moose! Just sayin'...

    And, by the way, awesome trestle!!! Even if it is straight...
    Thanks Moose I'm happy that my build can be of some use to you and, maybe, others as well.

    I can't see much difference in building a Curved Trestle though. The only thing that needs to be done is to position the bents for the curve bit other wise everything else remains the same. Obviously, the bents on the inside of the curve will be closer together than on the outside so the only thing to consider would be the distance between them. That, I would imagine, would be up to the individual and what "looks best" to them as well as the radius of the curve. As with most things involving a radii, the larger the better I would think.

    Caveat - I'm just thinking out loud and have no idea what I'm talking about
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    Quote Originally Posted by edfhinton View Post
    I would be reading with great interest too, as I someday in the future need to build Frankenstein Trestle in NH which was about 500' long and curved (technical a bunch of straight sections that formed a curve.)
    500' - darn, that will be an impressive bridge. Mine only represents something like 90' ... so when you build yours I'll definitely be watching, especially as yours is steel construction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wombat457 View Post
    I'm just thinking out loud and have no idea what I'm talking about
    Lol! Moose think that your most excellent [albeit straight] trestle build proves that you do know!
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    Okay - you guys win, a Curved Trestle it is; HOWEVER, that will be built once I have the new layout down (track wise). Why? Because I will need to know where the Bridge will go and what radius to make it. I could guess I suppose, but that may not work out all that well

    In the interim, I guess I could build a smaller bridge for practice and to sort out the "nitty gritty" of its construction ....... something maybe 12 or so inches long with an 18" radius perhaps?

    Also, after giving things careful consideration and taking into account what Gordon mentioned, I am going to extend my "boring straight bridge" by two bents either end. The two additional bents will be progressively shorter as well.
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    My four new Bents for the extension of the bridge:



    Now - how to fit them to the bridge????
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    Have one end attached:



    Cheers Tony

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    Quote Originally Posted by wombat457 View Post
    500' - darn, that will be an impressive bridge. Mine only represents something like 90' ... so when you build yours I'll definitely be watching, especially as yours is steel construction.
    It will be quite a while though - probably 2021 or 2022. But I have room for it without compression, so just over 3' long on the layout when I get to it.
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    Have gotten a little more done - all bents are in place and the Walkway is on; although, I am not all that happy with it. Perhaps it will look better once stained and blended in with the rest of the bridge?



    Have to put in the extra bent walkway supports and stain, obviously, but it is getting there. The one thing I am not sure about at the moment is how to put the Gold Medal Railing on, I don't have a hell of a lot of room, only 1/16" to work with. Any tips will be appreciated.
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    The additional bents make the trestle look more in proportion and more justified from an engineering point of view. For some reason the shorter version looked as though the engineers would have built an arch to span the chasm. Well done, Tony!
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    Much better Tony!!!
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    There should also be an abutment at each end, which could be one more shorter bent that has planks behind it to retain the soil. Or it could be stone I suppose, but I would guess they'd have just kept going with the pattern and made the abutment from wood. Nothing like having an excuse for yet more stained wood, since it looks so good!

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    Thanks gents, appreciate the kind words. There will be abutments but they will be put in place when the bridge gets a home and so I can adjust the length of the walkway and stringers, once they are in place.

    Have spent most of this last week in bed with the damn flu - gotta love winter Anyway, got a little more done this evening including soldering the railing together and finishing off the staining. Not sure if you can see the railing in the picture but now have to work out how to "attach it" to the bridge.

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    @wombat457

    Sorry to hear about your death bed experience (was wondering why you hadn't peen positing lately)...

    Moose can see railing. Was actually going to ask where you enquired it. Looks good! Now making some for everyone else...
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    @Moose2013

    Thanks mate and the railing is Gold Medal Industrial Railing, available from here along with a heap of other detail parts and nick knacks:

    http://www.goldmm.com/nscale/gmnsctyp.htm

    Thanks for your vote of confidence mate but I think people would probably prefer to build their own
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    A little more progress ... started on the external bracing and a better pic of the railing:







    For the Railing I drilled holes into a length of 1/32 x 1/16 and inserted the "feet" of the railing into them. The 1/32 x 1/16 will then be attached to the top of the outside edge of the walkway
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