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    Default INPUT to get more interest....

    What can we do to get more interest in urban modelling....I for one am passionate about it.....'JIMMI' (James Boyer) was also passionate....what can we do to generate more interest....otherwise this forum will die....'thanks' on a post just isn't enough....I mean that we should post more pictures of what are doing....
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    Quote Originally Posted by perth45 View Post
    otherwise this forum will die.
    What are you talking about? This forum or any other will not die for lack of interest in urban modeling. The hobby is doing just fine with interest in urban modeling at whatever level it is.

    I appreciate your enthusiasm, but your fear is seriously unfounded.

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    So if I see a post that I think is cool , and appreciate the time and effort and skill that it took to build ect . And then the time to post it up , I can't thank them for that ?
    I see a lot of great posts of stuff I'm not interested in doing , but I appreciate what they did , so I thank them for that and will continue to do so .

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    I believe Greg is referring to this particular sub-forum (Urban Modeling), not NSN as a whole.

    Greg, I think one thing that would really grab people's attention would be more construction photos of your buildings so that people could follow along, ask questions, and perhaps get drawn in to the point they may desire to build urban models.

    Your latest post in this forum of the buildings you're working on with little more than a photo or two is cool, but without knowing any backstory about how you got to that point, it just elicits a response something along the lines of "Cool buildings!", a click of the Thanks button, then it's on to the next post, forgetting all about what one just saw, sadly.
    Seeing regular updates of that you're doing grabs my attention more frequently and lets me follow along. Seeing how you do something makes me say, "I could do that, now that I've seen how it's done!" I know for many modelers, myself included, modeling something as large as downtown skyscraper buildings seems too overwhelming and intimating, so we stick to the simple open countryside.

    Don't know if this helps answer your question or not, but there's my thoughts for what they're worth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by conrailandrew View Post
    I believe Greg is referring to this particular sub-forum (Urban Modeling), not NSN as a whole.
    Ah, now that sounds quite a bit clearer!

    There is a certain, undeniable appeal to urban modeling, and street running is definitely cool in my opinion.

    I'd toyed many years ago with modeling the Ballard Terminal, located in Seattle.

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    P45:

    Please remember that the New Essen News has documented the growth of an Urban themed layout. Views of the New Essen thread was about 17,000 when Jimmi died in June of 2017. The views of the New Essen thread are now over 60,000, and heading to 65,000. The thread receives about 5,000 views every 3 months. So the interest is out there - even if the effort to build one is not.

    Thanks to Quinntopia, Scaper, Jimmi and you, I have contracted the urban fever. I am slowly building multi-story structures, in hopes that I will be able to create an urban layout. While having Jimmi as mentor taught me a lot, I feel like I'm not quite at the place to match abilities with the aforementioned structure gods. Hopefully, my future efforts will be judged by those at this forum as worthy of the G.U.N.S.* moniker.

    Thanks to @conrailandrew, I may have found my next writing project. I would be willing to follow in Jimmi's footsteps and share how I completed some of the projects I'm working on. While I'm not sure I can provide the step-by-step tutorials that some may desire, I can show you the growth of the structures as I complete them.


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    If I ever get to the part of my layout I will eventually have urban modeling to do, just not working on Kansas City yet ( might take a few more years ) , not any skyscrapers though .

    Here's a few buildings I did when I thought I would do KC first.




    Nabisco KC, build thread of this scratch build can be found here http://janbouli.com/?p=nabisco.html



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    I have noticed in this hobby at large people tend to mimic what is posted. Now that is a very generalized statement, but if somebody was to start posting an amazing urban layout with detailed and well written descriptions of what they modeled you will find others gain inspiration from that and tend to turn there modeling towards that.

    Look at how Lance Mindheim sparked a shelf layout movement ( and please I know he wasnt the only one).

    So if you want more interaction I would say this. You will get out of it what you put in.
    Be positive, Be polite, have fun with the hobby!

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    I’m sorry, I just am not interested in urban modeling, which is why I haven’t really paid much attention to this sub-forum from a modeling stand point. That aside I do marvel at the level of detail and construction of the urban modelers on this forum.
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    I plan to have an urban Dutch (Amsterdam-ish) section on my upcoming layout. I draw ideas and inspiration from those who have gone before.

    My current layout has scenes that could hardly be called rural, or even suburban:



    No skyscrapers, I admit, but urban nonetheless.

    And my yard extension has an urban scene from Hamburg:



    I hope this helps to perk you up, Greg. Urban scenes are out there!
    Cheers!
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    I must admit there is sooooo much to look at in an urban scene, and so many details to keep you busy.
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    While N Scale Limited is long gone, there will always be those few that will model the urban scene.

    I do think that many model open country because it is so much simpler. And a lot less costly. It takes time to fill blocks and blocks of either downtown or the surrounding areas.



    But I do think that the manufacturers outside Japan don't help much either. They just don't make enough Commuter, tram, LRV, Light Rail and Streetcar equipment.

    You can without too much effort shake some boxes and get an urban layout...



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    Scaper was also a great inspiration with his work.

    Urban modeling is (I feel) in a similar boat to Nn3... a smaller number of participants in a niche aspect of the hobby, therefore lesser posts... but also that the products and techniques used are common to the rest of the hobby, so the Q&A generally happens in other sub-forums... especially leaving this sub-forum with only layout show & tell.

    I would personally love to see more threads on hi-lines, subways, and tall buildings.

    When this sub-forum was started, there was talk of spreading the word to other urban modelers, letting them know they had a home here, whether their N-Scale modeling contained rail or not.
    I don’t know how much outside promotion this sub-forum actually received.
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    For those who may not understand the power of N Scale Urban Modeling, here's a link to Scaper's Flickr account.

    *** Warning: Click on this link at your own risk! I am NOT responsible if you catch Urban Fever. This fever can damage your relationships with loved ones and cause financial problems for you! This is NOT a joke! You have been warned!***

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/550637...57628064732434

    Here's a link to his NScale.net thread on old city kits:

    https://www.nscale.net/forums/showthread.php?15022-Old-building-model-kits-city-structures-Product-s-etc
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    Moose wanna join elite urban modeling modelers, so Moose secretly building something... ... ... ... Which could be just another rumour as there's no photographic proof...
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    love these...

    - - - Updated - - -

    just fantastic and great detail....
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    Its a pity that Jimmi and Scaper aren't around anymore, they were really inspiring...I miss them and the exciting structures that they built.....I just think that when I log on and come to Urban Modelling that the new posts are so few and far between unlike 10 years back when It was exciting to log on and see what everyone is creating.....I hope that males my point clear.....I just wish more people would post pictures of their structures, weathering, lighting etc.....
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    I agree with you...but its a shame because there is SO much out there now, its really easier than ever to be creative with our structures.....
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    I mean that 10 years ago this Urban Modelling forum was alive with creativity.....its not anymore... years ago I used to log in every day and see peoples pictures of what they were creating and I did same....that doesn't happen like it used to and I think its a shame, that's all I was meaning....
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    Janbouli, thanks for that link its fascinating.....
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