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    So last night I was testing my trains with a few cars attached, and overall things were going good. But, I have some cars that every now and thenwould disconnect from the engines. The thing in common is the ones that were doing this were just some old lightweight (very lightweight) cars that I have probably had 20 years. The hooks are very simple ones. I am wondering if maybe adding a little weight to the cars will resolve this, or if they are just cheap crappy cars. Most of the problem ones are box cars, and I bet the problem ones weigh less than an ounce.

    Sorry for the dumb question, but thanks for your help
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    Maybe tape some weight to a couple problem cars and see what happens.

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    What type of couplers are you using?
    Sounds like they may not be lined up in height properly?
    Push them next to each other, but don't couple them, then look to see if one is higher than the other or if one is sagging.
    Maybe snap a picture and post it.
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    Weight my solve the problem, but as Allen says it might be an alignment problem. Then again it might be a slight bump in the tracks especially the switches.

    On my longer trains some cars do have a tendency to uncouple for no apparent reason. I will swap the offenders to the end of the train. it may take a few trips around the layout with uncoupling, but eventually a good running train emerges. Heavier cars can put too much drag on lightweights forcing the separtions. by moving the lighter cars to the end of the train the problem is fixed. Sometimes just rotating the car fixes the problem too.
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    And when all esle fails, replace the entire truck, if you can, with MT trucks with coupler.

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    Thanks guys! Learning a lot here
    Link to my layout thread: https://www.nscale.net/forums/showth...ut-in-Nebraska

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    I would check the existing couplers first, see if any are loose, broken or sagging, Even check the tracks for joints that are out of alignment or if there are bumps in the tracks.
    If you're not sure, snap some pics and post them then maybe we can help determine what the issue is.
    Definitely don't waste your time or money replacing things until you know for sure.
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    Many inexpensive N scale cars with Rapido couplers have very poor renditions of them and will uncouple. Many of them are tilted up or down or have rounded edges, for example.

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    Quote Originally Posted by C0wb0y View Post
    Sorry for the dumb question, but thanks for your help
    No such thing as a dumb question here. As for the answers, well, we mean well.

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    @C0wb0y

    Are your locomotives & rolling stock equipped with Rapidos or knuckle couplers?

    CouplerRapidovsCompatible_1201219.JPG
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    If the rolling stock items are worth it to you to keep, then you could try converting them to knuckle couplers.

    CouplersCompatible_1201219.JPG
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    The link below has a discussion on n scale couplers that you might want to peruse...

    http://www.ngaugelayouts.com/N-scale-couplers.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moose2013 View Post
    @C0wb0y

    Are your locomotives & rolling stock equipped with Rapidos or knuckle couplers?

    CouplerRapidovsCompatible_1201219.JPG
    (Image from link below)

    If the rolling stock items are worth it to you to keep, then you could try converting them to knuckle couplers.

    CouplersCompatible_1201219.JPG
    (Image from link below)

    The link below has a discussion on n scale couplers that you might want to peruse...

    http://www.ngaugelayouts.com/N-scale-couplers.html
    @Moose2013, on the problem cars, they look like the couplers in the upper picture (Rapidos?)
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    Quote Originally Posted by C0wb0y View Post
    they look like the couplers in the upper picture (Rapidos?)
    Rapidos are on the left of that picture. Knuckle couplers are on the right.
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    @C0wb0y

    Like most things which couplers are used is a personal preference thing. For me, I like MT knuckle couplers, trucks etc because they seem to like MOST other types of couplers and are readily available - even if you don't use their magnetic abilities for coupling. If it were me; therefore, I would change out the Rapido's for MT Couplers and or Trucks with mounted couplers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by C0wb0y View Post
    @Moose2013, on the problem cars, they look like the couplers in the upper picture (Rapidos?)
    If you're referring to the left hand ones in the upper photo, then you have Rapido couplers.

    Moose experience: Rapidos not reliable nor prototypical and will cause frustration if you have locomotives and rolling stock with a mix of Rapidos couplers and what Moose will refer to as "compatible" couplers (i.e. knuckle couplers). The couplers in the lower photo are generally compatible with each other.

    The Accumates do not open/close so you have to connect/disconnect them with your hooves, errr, hands. Whereas, the other brands generally can be opened with a well placed magnet under track or a toothpick style tool from above, and closed by simply backing one car into the other until couplers engage.

    The relative heights of couplers can vary from locomotive or rolling stock, regardless of couplers type, so you could have problems regardless of coupler. There are ways to shim offending couplers to get correct height...

    Moose has managed to replace Rapido couplers with Micro-Trains couplers in some cases, with whole Micro-Trains trucks in some cases and as last resort with Accumates ... Last resort only because of their inability to couple by simply backing one car into the other.

    If you have specific cars that you wish to convert, please post photos of car or loco with make/model description, and the nSn community can help with tonne's of advice based on lots of conversions the community has done. Moose has a few threads where Moose replaced Rapido couplers on Con-cor and Bachmann rolling stock items...

    Hope this helps ... Moose hooves tired now...
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    A big shout out to Moose for posting that link to the photo of the comparison between the different coupler types. As a newcomer to N scale I see so much terminology thrown around that the sheer volume of "stuff to know" gets pretty overwhelming. A photo is a great 'splainer.

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    You don't have to be new to the hobby to be over whelmed by terminology or the vast array of different things all doing pretty much the same thing
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