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    The big buzz question currently circulating is...................................Can a ten legged camel make a Moose2013 Smile ?
    Yes, that's right, it's here. It's big, it's brash, it's the all new loco build tread that at least 'one' of you has been eagerly waiting for

    Now, let me make this clear, I don't need, or even want to build another loco. But, in the interests of other members safety from certain tramplings by a bad mooded old bull, I am sacrificing time and money to keep his spirits up (aside from those that he raises in his glass) and distract him from your playing with diesels. Don't say you don't owe me

    So, on to the prototype: Built in 1899 the loco was converted into a camelback in about 1910. I guess it was not a great success as after several years it was converted back to its original form.
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    The starting point for the build is this Roundhouse 2-8-0
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    This is a truly spectacular running loco. It creeps as slow as the eye can see, has great pick up and can out pull ANY of my diesels. The loco wheelbase and boiler measure up nicely so will remain intact. So not quite a build as opposed to a kitbash I guess ? Still, I feel the word build is more fitting..

    Now all I have to do is get on with it

    Up dates soon I hope though I do have to work this weekend
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    @tomcook

    Moose is breaking out the popcorn and will be putting a bottle of Scotland's finest-ish aside for went it's ready to hit the rails!
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    So, would @Moose2013 walk a mile to see a Camelback -- or even further?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Schmidt View Post
    So, would @Moose2013 walk a mile to see a Camelback -- or even further?
    You've lost me there Paul ???
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    @tomcook, it's an oblique reference to an old smokes commercial.

    https://youtu.be/XIxtnMfCURs

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Schmidt View Post
    So, would @Moose2013 walk a mile to see a Camelback -- or even further?
    Lol! Why yes, yes Moose would!
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    Off we go, Striped the boiler of all its furniture.

    IMG_1543 (2).jpg

    Next I elongated the cab windows and sculpted a former to create a deeper curve to the cab roof.

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    And then fitted a new cab roof over this.

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    Next up will be to carve off the separators in the paneling on the cab sides.

    That's the lot for tonight
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    Thank you Tom for what will surely be another wonderfully finessed build, looking forward to seeing progress.

    Methinks the most challenging part will be the tender ... ???

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    Quote Originally Posted by 56Pontiac View Post
    Methinks the most challenging part will be the tender ... ???
    Ah yes, the tender...........What to do ? The problem is the size of the motor in it. It is built tight around the motor but lucky for me the shell is made of thick metal so when I get to that part of the build I'll see what can be done. I'm not keen on disturbing the motor as the whole drivetrain runs like a Swiss watch and might not do so after my mits have been on it. So, we'll see when I get there. I'd rather traid a little inaccuracy for nice running as I'm not into shelf queens !!
    I got into railway modeling as a way to bring life to my landscape modeling so my top priority is that locos have to be operational. But, as said, early days so sit tight
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    Tom, I replaced the motor in one with the coreless motor out of a Spectrum 4-6-0. It left room enough for a loksound module in the tender shell, so i suppose if you were to want a smaller shell, that motor might be a good place to start. If I remember right, it is 8-9mm in dis. and about 16mm long.
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    Quote Originally Posted by badlandnp View Post
    I replaced the motor in one with the coreless motor out of a Spectrum 4-6-0.
    Did the smaller motor effect its pulling capacity and its running characteristics ?
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    The little I have run it it seemed to run about the same. However, I am unsure about pulling power. The 4-6-0 it came out of pulls pretty well, so I suspect it will do ok also.
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    so far coreless motors have been doing good service in terms of... ummm...
    lets call it power output.

    If you are looking to go to a smaller motor... coreless is one way to get there.
    the motor will be lighter simply because it is smaller.

    you can use pewter or tungsten powder to add weight.
    there should be some spare room?

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    Some careful work with a scalpel blade saw the removal of the cab side panel dividers

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    After
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    Also, the camel gains its hump !!! And a longer chimney.
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    So, I finished work early today and got home to find a persuasive email from an nsn member telling me to get on with the camel Well, the camel and I get on just fine as it is On second reading I got the message !!!

    Rather than doing the all important house cleaning, I did get on with the camel

    I started with turning a new dome in the chuck of my battery drill ! and then carving the headlight into a more rounded shape to resemble that found on the prototype.

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    Feeling that this was not enough to keep the Moose2013 from the door, I pressed on.

    I added the rear dome, the walkways and started on the fireman's cab.

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    Would I be left in peace now ? Better safe than sorry I said to myself and onwards I forged.

    I fitted a roof to the rear cab, raised the height of the drivers cab with spacers under the side panels, added decal rivets to the bottom edge of the fire box and made a whistle and fitted a bell. Phew !

    IMG_1579 (2).jpg IMG_1582 (2).jpg IMG_1586 (2).jpg

    Seriously starting to look the part now

    I think I've earned some time off so will carry myself off hiking in the mountains tomorrow. As far as I know, meese don't function at altitude so I will escape the relentless hounding

    Happy weekend to you all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tomcook View Post
    So, I finished work early today and got home to find a persuasive email from an nsn member telling me to get on with the camel Well, the camel and I get on just fine as it is On second reading I got the message !!!
    One @Moose2013 perhaps?

    Which reminds me, Moose has not posted to Wombat's "How long have you been in the hobby?" thread. I wonder if it's because Moose has a nefarious past with some facet of the hobby. ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomcook View Post
    So, I finished work early today and got home to find a persuasive email from an nsn member telling me to get on with the camel Well, the camel and I get on just fine as it is On second reading I got the message !!!
    @Moose2013 can be impatient. And you've been "moosed" rather than hounded.

    Which reminds me, Moose has not posted to Wombat's "How long have you been in the hobby?" thread. I wonder if it's because Moose has a nefarious past with some facet of the hobby (diesels). ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Schmidt View Post
    Which reminds me, Moose has not posted to Wombat's "How long have you been in the hobby?" thread. I wonder if it's because Moose has a nefarious past with some facet of the hobby (diesels). ...
    Do be careful there Paul, as you know, he doesn't live far from you I on the other hoof, have a nice blob of water between us Having said that, did you know that Meese can swim to a depth of 25' !!! Apparently they do this to feed on the green slimy stuff that grows on the bottom of lakes ! Yuck !!! I'll stick with camels !!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Schmidt View Post
    @Moose2013 can be impatient. And you've been "moosed" rather than hounded.

    Which reminds me, Moose has not posted to Wombat's "How long have you been in the hobby?" thread. I wonder if it's because Moose has a nefarious past with some facet of the hobby (diesels). ...
    @tomcook @Paul Schmidt @el Gato Gordo

    Moose post to Wombat's thread. Now, everybody, get back to modeling...

    Errr, to clarify, since Tom might take that to mean modeling in the buff for Gordon's layout, ewe!

    Let's just say:

    Tom: Get back to building a camel, some how, that just doesn't sound right...

    Paul: Get back to yer trees and layout extension. Do it mister!

    Gordon: One word, clothes, clothes!


    Everyone else: Get back to playing with trains and leave poor Tom to work on his Camel in peace!

    The Moose has spoken...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moose2013 View Post
    ewe!
    ...
    Gordon: One word, clothes, clothes!
    The ewes are at the other end of the layout and don't need clothes. Wassamatta U?
    Cheers!
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