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    Video Train Derailment and Cleanup at Santa Fe Junction, MO.

    Last edited by DrifterNL; 24th Sep 2020 at 04:02 PM.


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    wow... 1:1 sectional bridge track... lol
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    Very cool watch. UP got an issue with auto racks lately?
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    Very interesting thank you!

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    Yikes, for that crew I be that was exciting for a minute there.

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    Never saw a train stop that fast before, and nobody got hurt. Impressive camera too.

    What is coming up off the track in front of the lead engine 6 or 7 handrail stanchions in front of the signal at 1:13? And that trailer parked right under where it started looks mighty suspicious. Ah, I must be watching too many Hollywood movies...

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    That must have been scary in the cab...

    I probably would have needed underwear change by the time the train halted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NtheBasement View Post
    What is coming up off the track in front of the lead engine 6 or 7 handrail stanchions in front
    It looks to be ballast and dust. The camera angle makes it look to be ahead of the locomotive but is probably right beside the lead truck/wheels.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NtheBasement View Post
    Never saw a train stop that fast before, and nobody got hurt. Impressive camera too.

    What is coming up off the track in front of the lead engine 6 or 7 handrail stanchions in front of the signal at 1:13? And that trailer parked right under where it started looks mighty suspicious. Ah, I must be watching too many Hollywood movies...
    UP has said the preliminary cause was a "mechanical issue."

    If you look at an aerial view of the UP viaduct (https://www.google.com/maps/place/17...!4d-94.6061371), you'll see a crossover in the area where the derailment noise began. If you're looking at probable cause, I'm gonna go with a split switch pointed the wrong way. I mean, it's happened on all our layouts before!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MetroRedLn View Post
    UP has said the preliminary cause was a "mechanical issue."

    If you look at an aerial view of the UP viaduct (https://www.google.com/maps/place/17...!4d-94.6061371), you'll see a crossover in the area where the derailment noise began. If you're looking at probable cause, I'm gonna go with a split switch pointed the wrong way. I mean, it's happened on all our layouts before!
    Possible, but not probable. There are controlled signals at that crossover. Given a properly adjusted power-operated, remotely controlled switch per CFR 236, any gap greater than .249" between the point and stock rail would not allow the signal to clear for movement past that signal. The FRA would be all over this like ants at a picnic.

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    Good to hear from the professional on this, @Paul Schmidt! Thanks!

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    When UP says "mechanical," I'm more inclined to think of a broken axle or wheel, maybe a broken rail, such as a chunk of the ball of the rail breaking away.

    Whatever happened looks to have occurred before the signal, given the dust and debris under the lead locomotive. And the points of the switch are beyond the signal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Schmidt View Post
    such as a chunk of the ball of the rail breaking away.
    Now THAT is something that never occurred to me!

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    FWIW: My first thought when watching the video was a broken rail.
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    Did you quantify the sound on that, Gary?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gary Rowan View Post
    FWIW: My first thought when watching the video was a broken rail.
    As a railroader, my first thought was, "Who's getting fired for this? And do they have income insurance?"

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    Those Wilkerson cranes - two of them. They are both lifting and moving autoracks off the bridge - one on each end of the car. That's pretty amazing coordination if you ask me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Schmidt View Post
    I'm more inclined to think of a broken axle or wheel, maybe a broken rail,
    I first thought of a broken rail or some sort of track issue, possibly the gauge spreading or rail rolling over (both caused by fastener failing). It happens.
    The point of derailment seems to be almost at the immediate left side of the view above the first steel support. A loud "clunking" like the wheels crossing a gap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by el Gato Gordo View Post
    Did you quantify the sound on that, Gary?
    Nope, that battery in my sound meter died before I could turn it on the video .
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    WOW very interesting. How do they get them out of a tunnel.?

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