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    Default Modern railcar road number reality checker

    I wanted to find out how prototype weigh scales look and operate so that I could dress my layout scale up to look real. Got into finding out rules for coal customers (did you know they had to fill cars to 98% capacity? And why would a customer pay $4300 to turn a train?) here https://www.csx.com/index.cfm/custom.../coal/pricing/

    That led me to a link which might prove useful... if you know the road number you can find a car's Umler (didn't know what that was) specs. https://shipcsx.com/pub_sx_trackingpublic_jct/sx.trackingpublic/UmlerSearch
    I entered CSXT 242788 from a prototype photo.
    CSXT 242788
    Covered Hopper Car
    Mechanical Designation LO Outside Length 041 ft 11 in
    AAR Car Type Code C112 Outside Extreme Height 15 ft 04 in
    Inside Length 00 ft 00 in Outside Extreme Width 10 ft 08 in
    Inside Height 00 ft 00 in Height of Extreme Width 09 ft 03 in
    Inside Width 00 ft 00 in Upper Eaves Height 15 ft 00 in
    Side Door Height 00 ft 00 in Upper Eaves Width 08 ft 06 in
    Side Door Width 00 ft 00 in Lower Eaves Height 00 ft 00 in
    Side Door Type Lower Eaves Width 00 ft 00 in
    Plate Clearance C Star Stencil Q
    Compartments 2 Trans Code W
    Outlets 2 Trans Cond Code
    Lining Floor Trough
    Roof Type 4 Floor Strength 0
    Draft Gear 66 Articulated
    Cubic Ft Capacity 03281 cu ft Max Weight on Rail 286000 lbs.
    Nominal Capacity 000000 lbs. Tare Weight 053600 lbs.
    Owned Or Leased Owned Load Limit 232400 lbs.
    Special Characteristics
    Roof Configuration Round roof hatch center line of car

    Then I entered CSXT 811207 from one of the cars on my layout. Nope, no such car, at least not in service today:
    CSXT 811207 CAR NOT ON FILE
    Wondering if the site works for other than CSX, I entered this one from one of @badlandnp's Glendive videos. Yup.
    BN 462320
    Covered Hopper Car
    Mechanical Designation LO Outside Length 060 ft 00 in
    AAR Car Type Code C113 Outside Extreme Height 15 ft 00 in
    Inside Length 00 ft 00 in Outside Extreme Width 10 ft 08 in
    Inside Height 00 ft 00 in Height of Extreme Width 08 ft 05 in
    Inside Width 00 ft 00 in Upper Eaves Height 13 ft 05 in
    Side Door Height 00 ft 00 in Upper Eaves Width 10 ft 01 in
    Side Door Width 00 ft 00 in Lower Eaves Height 13 ft 04 in
    Side Door Type Lower Eaves Width 10 ft 06 in
    Plate Clearance B Star Stencil L
    Compartments 3 Trans Code P
    Outlets 3 Trans Cond Code
    Lining U Floor Trough
    Roof Type 1 Floor Strength 0
    Draft Gear 88 Articulated
    Cubic Ft Capacity 04750 cu ft Max Weight on Rail 268000 lbs.
    Nominal Capacity 000000 lbs. Tare Weight 061100 lbs.
    Owned Or Leased NOT CSX CAR Load Limit 206900 lbs.
    Special Characteristics
    Roof Configuration Trough or continuous hatch in roof

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    Now that could be a fun rabbit hole to get lost in....!
    Northern Pacific and Black Hills RR in N, of course!!
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    My rabbit hole was thinking of calculating the bill for moving coal now that I can weigh it. I'm amazed at the cost. Basic charge is $38/ton plus $0.03/ton mile. An example from the doc from a loadout called Affinity:

    For a Michigan destination 300 miles from Russell, Kentucky, the unit train rate from Affinity to destination would be calculated as follows:
    $38.00 per ton + (300 miles x $0.03 cents/ton per mile) + [Affinity to Russell Gateway Differential charge] + Fuel Surcharge =
    $38.00 per ton + ($9.00 per ton) + [$3.60 per ton] = $50.60 per ton + Fuel Surcharge

    It comes to $5000 per car or $500,000 per hundred car unit train. I also get to charge $250/car for my dumper but my weigh scale is free because it is en route.

    But these figures don't jibe with this quote from eia.gov about transportation costs:

    In 2019, the national average sales price of bituminous, subbituminous, and lignite coal at coal mines was $30.93 per short ton, and the average delivered coal price to the electric power sector was $38.53 per short ton. The difference is an average transportation cost of $7.60 per short ton, or nearly 20% of the average delivered price to the electric power sector.

    There's a huge difference between $58/ton and $7.60 per ton, right? Then there is this from coaleducatuion.org:

    One ton of coal can produce 2,500 kilowatt hours (kwh) of electricity.

    Granted coaleducation.org is probably biased, and "can produce" could be calculated with anthracite as opposed to low grade bituminous or lignite, but at maybe $0.15/kwh retail that's $375/ton which makes $58 sound reasonable.

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    That's very nice!

    I'm regularly trying to find info on cars I'm trying to buy, and just right now with the CSX UMLER search I see Intermountain put round-hatch-four-bay-hopper numbers on through-hatch-three-bay-hopper models

    Heiko

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