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    I couldn't have put it better myself. All I would add would be that Europe and Japan have never had the same relationship with the car as the US which ment that people took much longer to adopt it insted of the train. Also, trains in Europe/Japan have always pushed efficiency in time and fuel right from the start which has helped them stay competitive. As they never sat back, there was never any catching up to do.

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    Here's an article on Ars Technica about the TGV that started operations in France 40 years ago.

    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2021/09...ce-and-europe/
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    Excellent article!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomcook View Post
    @drosera88
    I couldn't have put it better myself. All I would add would be that Europe and Japan have never had the same relationship with the car as the US which ment that people took much longer to adopt it insted of the train. Also, trains in Europe/Japan have always pushed efficiency in time and fuel right from the start which has helped them stay competitive. As they never sat back, there was never any catching up to do.

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    Yep. Part of that might be the fact that a lot of European cities are ancient compared to US cities, with buildings and roadways sometimes going on 200-300 years old, even closer to 500+ years in some cities. That means streets that were never built for anything but foot traffic and horses, and no garages or places to park a car. This means lots of people use scooters, Vespas, and motorcycles for in town motor transport simply because a car is inconvenient to drive and store. When your personal vehicle is a motorscooter, long distance trips become far less appealing to take by road rather than by rail.

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